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Reaper by: fl0540bravo - Apr 27, 2011 12:26:45 GMT -6

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Post by fl0540bravo on Apr 27, 2011 12:26:45 GMT -6

Greetings all. New here and thought i would show off my engine transplant. I have a 2009 Jonway VIP 50cc. I bought her new with less then 1 mile on it. At the time that I bought her I really didn't have a clue about scooters or the following that they have. The reason i decided to buy a scooter was well I blew the engine in my mini van. And i really didn't have the money to fix or replace it. I'm a full time college student trying to get some reeducation after the economy dropped here. Not having much money I wanted to get something cheap and easy to maintain.

Note: Not actual pic of scooter only a stock pic i found online.

I didn't take any pics of her when i bought her. For the first 2500 miles she ran great no problems or issues with her. Other then i did need a new belt and battery after a year. At 2505 miles she soft seized on me. This is when i found the world of scooter tuning. lol. When searching online for a new engine or parts I came across BBK kits and complete engines. Boy let me tell ya what I was in pure heaven. lol. Well to make a long story a little shorter i did a BBK from scrappydogscooter

well to be honest I didn't do a really good job at installing it and she didn't last long again. Did one more and same thing. Next i did a stock crank, head, piston, all new bearings, rings and gaskets, new belt clutch variater rollers everything but a new case.

She ran good but now i knew there was so much more out there that I could do. Well luck would have it and my Income tax came in and a school stifes check came in at the same time. Boy it was on and I was a happy camper.

Did a lot of reading and Google searches and decided what the hell lets try to max out the little 50cc and have some fun. And the upgrade began.
A short list of what I bought

scrappydogscooter.com
200cc complete engine
32mm carb, intake, and filter
Performance racing GY6 Exhaust system
Red hot high energy GY6 ignition coil
CR7 Iridium Spark Plug
Chrome rear fender
GY6-150 sport rear wheel 13"

MonsterGY6.com
M-GY6 Engine Swap Mount
Performance Torque Spring 1500rpm yellow
NCY Performance Variator 150cc
NCY Racing Clutch Blue 150cc
Velocita Performance Air Scoop Chrome
UNI Air Filter Angled 14-4183 4x1.75 (150cc)
NCY Adjustable Rear Shock
Velocita Performance Fan Chrome
Velocita Chrome Clutch Bell 150cc

Scootercraft.com
STR8 Handlebar End Weights - Carbon Shorty
STR8 Theft Protection Valve Caps - Carbon Look
STR8 CNC-Style Right Side Mirror - Carbon Look
STR8 CNC-Style Left Side Mirror - Carbon look
STR8 Carbon Look XL Riser Kit - Minarelli / CPI / Hyosung

partsforscooters.com
Anodized aluminum fuel filters
GY6 Curved Chrome Kick Stand
Rear Wheel Nut
GY6 chrome main stand
Muffler Bracket
GY6 Oil Cooler Cover
GY6 7 pin regulator
Hoca Main Jet, Sizes: 135
Hoca Main Jet, Sizes: 130
Hoca Main Jet, Sizes: 125
Hoca Main Jet, Sizes: 120
Hoca Main Jet, Sizes: 115

ok now to the good part. Im sorry i didnt take many good pics of the install as when i get going I forget to snap pics. lol

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Reaper by: fl0540bravo - Apr 27, 2011 12:30:15 GMT -6

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Post by fl0540bravo on Apr 27, 2011 12:30:15 GMT -6

Got a little bit more done on "the Buggy" (name was given by boss and it kind of stuck to it). Got all three gauges hooked up and working. Oil pressure, Oil temp, and Volts. Made the pod mounts for them out of 1 1/4" PVC connector pipe cut at a 45 degree. Then i tried to epoxy them together and paint gloss black but the epoxy didn't hold. But the way i have them mounted with 2 screws each pod they wont move and still looks good. I was worried about how to mount the gauges in the pods, as I pushed one in to get an idea the one screw in the front inside of the pod sticks out just enough that it pushes on the gauge and holds it in nice and tight.

The volts is showing 12 volts with the key on was trying to see if the lights were working but sun was out and could not see.
After the gauges I did my first post engine swap oil change (no pics as I'm sure we all know how to do that, lol).
Next came some "chrome" looking wire loom. I started to just do the main wires around the engine (starter, coil, etc. etc. etc.) When done with that I saw I had a lot left over so I just went wild. LOL

All in all I think she looks good. The speakers on the handle bars are for my 100w stereo as long as the motor is off she sounds good, but when I star it up and try to listen to it I get more engine noise and squawks and popping that it hurts the ears. I've tried different grounds and I've even wired it right to the battery and no difference. When it was hooked up to my 50cc I didn't have any problems with it. I'm looking for a noise isolator and hope that works.

Well that's all for now I will try to get some pics of the gauges tonight when the sun goes down and see who the lights work. Did a little re wiring to them and I hope it works. If not you'll never know cuz i aint saying what I did. LOL
Its dinner time and I'm hungry Think I'm going to make me some Manwhich and watch some Syfi channel.

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Reaper by: Bong - Apr 27, 2011 15:41:37 GMT -6

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Post by Bong on Apr 27, 2011 15:41:37 GMT -6

That is a SWEEEET Scoot. GREAT WORK!!!!!! Black is the fastest color BTW so good choice.

Your parts list could have paid my mortgage for 3 months. Money well spent IMO ;D

I got lots of questions but, Enjoy the Manwich for now, I think you deserve a steak and lobster though.

That has to be one of the best little 50cc scoots out there

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Reaper by: fl0540bravo - Apr 27, 2011 21:12:15 GMT -6

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Post by fl0540bravo on Apr 27, 2011 21:12:15 GMT -6

Thanx everyone for the nice complements.

Let me start with the engine.

Its a 161QML the actual CC is 189cc but we all round up on these GY6 so its a 200cc. I plan on rebuilding it on day with a stroker crank and a BBK which should make it an actual 200cc. Its fast as hell well faster then the stock 50cc. lol. I did kind of race a 150 today on my way to class, he said my scoot looked slow and that he could beat me at half throttle. well when he caught up to me at the next red light he just wouldn't look me in eye. lol

The fan that i have is not one of the UV lights. I'm still saving those for my comp. lol

The parts list that i have listed is well more then i wanted to spend but hey I had fun and I love it. If I had to do it again I might of changed a few things and well ordered more. lol.

Feel free to ask any questions you have or want to know. I'll answer anything on how i did something I don't believe in keeping my build secrets to myself. If i did something and someone else wants to copy it then go for it.

Got a couple more upgrades I'm looking to do soon, like a 13" front rim. New handle bar setup.maybe a rear fatty tire setup. New head light set up (would like to see where I'm going at night) And just a few other odds and ends.

That's all for now. Thanks for looking

Tim

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Reaper by: Cruiser - Apr 27, 2011 21:58:17 GMT -6

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Post by Cruiser on Apr 27, 2011 21:58:17 GMT -6

Great looking scoot, Tim. And to think it started out looking like my VIP50:

Some of this particular model came from the factory as 60cc scoots (44mm bore). Did you measure the bore when you did the first engine tear down?

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Reaper by: fl0540bravo - Apr 27, 2011 23:03:49 GMT -6

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Post by fl0540bravo on Apr 27, 2011 23:03:49 GMT -6

I did not measure the piston when i took it out. But the 50mm that i bought for it was way so much bigger then original. And im pretty sure it was stock cuz it just wouldn't get out of its own way going down hill with a tail wind being pushed buy a jet engine. ;D And yes your scoot could be mines twin brother. Sub the yellow wit red and its a bingo.

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Reaper by: runningslow - Apr 29, 2011 8:56:31 GMT -6

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Post by runningslow on Apr 29, 2011 8:56:31 GMT -6

I like it! I've got the same engine (from scrappy) in my Matrix, but not really any perf parts to go with it. Just the stock stuff from my original 170.

What's your top speed? (real, not chino)

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Post by fl0540bravo on Apr 29, 2011 21:27:45 GMT -6

Today going to a friends house i hit 57 according to my GPS. Last week i hit 59 according to a LCSO street radar my GPS said 56. Thats only at 3/4 throttle still scared to open her up with the small 10" tire up front.

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Reaper by: 13lky2 - Apr 30, 2011 5:47:04 GMT -6

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Post by 13lky2 on Apr 30, 2011 5:47:04 GMT -6

What's the actual bore and stroke for it? I saw you said 189cc is the actual size which I had been wondering how much they were rounding on those. Let us know how it holds up to, I am considering snagging one if/when I blow my motor. ;D

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Reaper by: runningslow - Apr 30, 2011 7:35:19 GMT -6

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Post by runningslow on Apr 30, 2011 7:35:19 GMT -6

Apr 29, 2011 21:27:45 GMT -6 fl0540bravo said:

Today going to a friends house i hit 57 according to my GPS. Last week i hit 59 according to a LCSO street radar my GPS said 56. Thats only at 3/4 throttle still scared to open her up with the small 10" tire up front.

Nice! The highest I've seen on my bicycle speedo (verified by gps) is 63. This was at full throttle, in a tuck. I'm sure I could do better, but I need to tune my CVT.

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Post by fl0540bravo on Apr 30, 2011 22:39:51 GMT -6

A few people have asked how i hooked up my oil temp gauge. I took a few pics that will help understand how i did it. My engine came with the oil cooler already attached with pre-drilled oil inlet and outlet ports for the cooler lines.

Hope the pics can give you a idea of what i did, I know i should of put the temp before the cooler but i just didn't have enough room for the presure and temp in the same location.

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