I am having "take back to dealer" anxiety lol, I have Piaggio number ready to call, but just don't want them tearing my beloved scoot apart and trying to fix it. I am a prof Auto tech by trade, and am very particular about anyone else working on my bike s. If I could just get a new mill I would be happy. No mistaking there is an abnormal noise in the motor. Wonder if I call Piaggio if I could make that happen - biggest fear is getting it back from the dealer with more probs than it had now. Gord
MAN UP!!!!!,,,call those italian bastards,,,geez it's not like you didn't pay thru the nose for the thing,,,i too have the "don't touch my sh!t" syndrome,,,i'm not a pro but i grew up in a stock car race shop,,,a little of my father rubbed off on me,,,and i have a real hard time letting someone work on my stuff that has less tools than i do,,,,it's got no miles on it and it should be replaced PERIOD!!! Unless it's something so minor,,,but if they have to take it apart,,it should be changed,,,with well under 1000 miles,,i personally would insist,,,or my money back,,,i think they'll ship a mill
My GT200 sounds like a little diesel when cold. She warms up quick and is gone. I've heard others with a similar noise on startup. It never bothered me, and the old girl keeps on running so I've always just chalked it up to the character of the engine. Something to note however is that the GT and the GTS are different engines. I'd snoop around the ModernVespa.com forums though. Those guys will give you an idea of what is and is not an acceptable noise on the GTS.
Last Edit: Dec 10, 2014 10:07:16 GMT -6 by fugaziiv
if you have a clatter inside your mill there is a problem hot or cold there should be no noise of metal to metal contact,,,even my lowly stella is as quiet as can be,,,and i've never had a noisey engine except fo one and i drive it now on and off because of the weather,,,my one ton diesel dually,,,,now thats a noisey engine if there ever was one,,,jesus that thing makes a racket,,,but i've never had a noisey gas engine
I Reread my post and I sounded like a first class a$$hole,,,and I'm sorry,, I personally have not had an engine with mechanical noise ( except my diesel) so it would be a concern for me,,, that's all I'm saying , I just feel that if stuff is flying around inside an engine and if it's making clicking thumping rattling clattering there's an issue somewhere ,, and also if it " goes away" when warmed is saying to me " I'm out of tolerance and wait for me to grow then I'm good",,, this in a scoot that costs north of $7000 to me is unacceptable
Hey cyborg, no worries mate, I appreciate the advise, gonna take it. What I have is the definition of a "top end knock" worse cold, goes away hot, opposite of a bottom or "big end" knock. Piston or wrist pin swell up and clearance, hence noise, is gone hot. I know this is what it is, used to this on an air cooled bike, tolerances are greater, hell my Harley did it since new unless warmed a bit. However a liquid cooled bike has better,(tighter) tolerances and the piston/cylinder bore fit is better, (or should be). Prob what happened is the bike sat for almost a year at dealer, evidence of cosmetic corrosion on outside of engine cases indicates that it was in a moisture environment. Prob got some inside the cyl as well. I run -in my vehicle like a granny, easy on the scoot for the first 500. Figured the top end noise is bad run in, or wear in prob, worsened by sitting at the dealer, even maybe outside at times. Rainy and humid here in Fl. I knew it had some minor cosmetic issues when I bought it. I can fix it for $500, but as you say, why should I? Piston, rings, cylinder is my external diagnosis, but I cannot rule out the connecting rod small end. I need a new mill, not a repaired one. Next Vesp dealer is in St Petersburg, other end of county, but will contact Piaggio first. Well let you know what happens. Thanks for the boost.Gord