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Post by mxmatt on Nov 10, 2014 8:27:32 GMT -6
Did you do the swirling test? That is for the water pump. Sort of. I think. I'll do it again Zen Master. *heads to Walmart for another bottle of coolant* |
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Post by mxmatt on Nov 10, 2014 8:32:57 GMT -6
Did you check both of those thermostats in a pan of water? How can you 100% take them off of the table until you test them. Did you order a new one without testing the old one? Hmmm? Did you Mattie? OK...lean forward:
Next time listen up.....  No. No I didn't.  ? Yes. Yes I ordered the new one and replaced it without testing either. ? I still have the original and will run the test this morning and let u know. ? *palms stinging cheek* |
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Post by Guitarman on Nov 10, 2014 21:47:15 GMT -6
Honestly, everything on the bike is simple. Notice I did not say easy. If you have the time, do it yourself. You'll have a better idea of how your bike works and be able to troubleshoot it later.
If you don't like getting your hands dirty, then find a GOOD shop to take it to. Ask the folks here that are in your area for referrals.
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Post by mxmatt on Nov 10, 2014 23:26:07 GMT -6
Did you check both of those thermostats in a pan of water? How can you 100% take them off of the table until you test them. Did you order a new one without testing the old one? Hmmm? Did you Mattie? OK...lean forward:
Next time listen up..... No. No I didn't. ? Yes. Yes I ordered the new one and replaced it without testing either. ? I still have the original and will run the test this morning and let u know. ? *palms stinging cheek* Both thermostats tested. Both operating properly. Still overheating. Fan works when heated before overheating. Water pump??? |
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Post by cyborg on Nov 11, 2014 0:32:52 GMT -6
Radiator plugged, bad hose(s) or pump impeller compromised?
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Post by mxmatt on Nov 11, 2014 12:13:01 GMT -6
I am getting intermittent cooling.
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Post by Bashan on Nov 11, 2014 12:29:23 GMT -6
Can you see the coolant moving in the radiator?
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Post by cyborg on Nov 11, 2014 12:55:55 GMT -6
i'm calling bad hose,,,,or some other obstruction ( packing paper or plastic) something is floating around in there
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Post by Guitarman on Nov 11, 2014 13:26:49 GMT -6
I think the splines on the impeller are bad.
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Post by Bashan on Nov 11, 2014 15:53:36 GMT -6
Could be any of that. It's time to pull the radiator and flush it out. Pull the hoses and make sure they're clear. Pull the thermostat and pump and flush water through the system. Inspect the impeller and see if anything looks hinky. Make sure the impeller drive is intact and the impeller is tight on the shaft when mounted.
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Post by mxmatt on Nov 11, 2014 20:12:14 GMT -6
Can you see the coolant moving in the radiator? Kind of. Something I am noticing is that no matter how many times I "burp" the system and test it for a ride, there is a continuous stream of bubbles emitting into the cup the radiator cap screws onto. It is coming from the hose that is attached to the carburetor. I am thinking that I am picking up air somehow. Also, no matter how long I let the bike cool down after a good burping, when I open the cap, there is a little pressure and coolant escapes. It's not much, but it didn't do this before. I am not sure I understand the "swirling" you are referring to Rich. Is that from the coolant returning to the cup under the cap? This is really starting to frustrate me. I have done nothing but baby this bad boy since the day it landed in my driveway. What would plug my radiator or cause the water pump to fail at 3300 miles? Oh, I double checked the weep hole on the water pump 10 times and there is not coolant coming from the hole. |
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Post by mxmatt on Nov 11, 2014 20:13:09 GMT -6
i'm calling bad hose,,,,or some other obstruction ( packing paper or plastic) something is floating around in there Is there a way to access all of these without having to remove all the body parts? |
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Post by mxmatt on Nov 11, 2014 20:14:05 GMT -6
I think the splines on the impeller are bad. If so, can the impeller be replaced without the whole water pump assembly, or is it an all or nothing deal? |
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Post by mxmatt on Nov 11, 2014 20:16:15 GMT -6
I forgot to mention that last night after a thorough burping and obtaining what appeared to be normal operation at idle for several minutes, I took it for a ride. I mostly stayed at 45 MPH for several miles with no overheating. It was a very cool AZ night so that was to my advantage. However, when I took it on the highway and ran it at 65 MPH for about a mile, the gauge quickly entered the red zone.  |
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Post by Bashan on Nov 11, 2014 20:49:13 GMT -6
When you take the radiator cap off and let the bike get hot enough that the thermostat opens you should see the coolant swirling down through the radiator cap opening. This is the normal circulation that the water pump creates. If there is no swirl, rapids so to speak, then the pump is not working.
Now.....WHAT?! The carb has a hose that hooks onto the radiator fill spout? Now, let's be clear, the radiator fill cap is completely different than the reservoir tank fill. You're aware of that right? The carb coolant hoses are a joke and not needed. You can leave the carb nipples open, they run to some channels inside the carb, it doesn't matter if they're dry. You will have to plug the supply line though. It usually comes off of a nipple near the thermostat. Also plug the one running to the radiator so there's no reflux. That might be a return line from the carb, I'd have to see some pix. Look down into the radiator when it's hot, that will tell us if the pump is doing anything. Rich
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? And again at 2033mi. 
