No start. No anything. By olivertwisted (Read 9,145 times)

[olivertwisted]

cyborg ? I'm not sure I understand. From what I gather, the headlights don't work unless the motor is running ?
I just put a new kill and start switch on there. Gots more figurin' to do !

[Alleyoop]

HAHAHAHA, what he means by lite up is DOES THE MOTOR START AND RUN, NOT about the lights
Once you get the switchs in and you can turn the moto over and have spark then we can work on getting the motor to LITE up as CY puts it.

[rosiemoto]

Some reason I thought cyborg was talking about a cigarette lighter... how that makes any sense I don't know BUT... now I learned something new!

[olivertwisted]

Ahhh, Haha!

Okay well see, that TOO is complicated cyborg !
See, I am working on this in my dining room area because, it is less complicated getting to my pc from my yard especially, since I have two kitties that love the challenge of seeing whether they can dart out the door every time it cracks open! There are other factors too but, also I have my newly acquired sciatica problem so, pushing the bike outside the apartment to actually start it is at a premium I can start it briefly, here and there with the doors and windows open, just not for long periods at all I wouldn't be nearly this close though, without Alleyoop, undoubtedly!

On another note, the light switch that came in this set is not the same. It has three prongs as opposed to the 4 on mine. I'm trying to open to clean the one that I have and a contact is floating around loose in there now,before I have even figured out how to open it without breaking it. Hopefully, that doesn't stall anything else.
The start switch and kill switch plugged right in but do look a tiny bit smaller than mine, hopefully, those will fit in the panel ok .
Okay, whaddayasay Alleyoop ? You wanna do a round on this brat ? I plugged the kill and start in and plugged the stock ground back on, to see if anything corrects?

Here's what I've got...



Ok, THIS switch has labels my last one didn't and I assume that the label to the left indicates "Kill".
1. When I put the old "Stock" ground wire to the start switch turn the key on and try to start in that position, the engine turns.

2. When I try that with the switch to what I think is the "Run" position, nothing still.

3. When I connect to the start switch the ground to frame that I hooked in, Key on, I get a turn over both positions of the kill switch.

So, Alley, at this point does the solution to connect a fresh ground to frame to one of the wires on the kill switch still apply, to avoid having to trace around on these ground wires? If so, do I understand correctly, this one ?

[olivertwisted]

Lol!
If it helps rosiemoto , I DO have one that I will be installing
Thank GOODNESS, it should be simple enough, even for me !

[Alleyoop]

3. When I connect to the start switch the ground to frame that I hooked in, Key on, I get a turn over both positions of the kill switch.

Ok hook it up with your ground to frame BUT the important thing is to TEST FOR SPARK IN BOTH POSITIONS.
YOU SHOULD ONLY GET SPARK IN THE RUN position, switch to the RIGHT=RUN and WHEN PUSHED to the LEFT NO SPARK.

[olivertwisted]

Ok. I'll give ita go and report. Is the green wire that I indicated in the pic , the correct one?

[Alleyoop]

I believe it is the other green wire next to the GREEN/WHITE from the START BUTTON

[olivertwisted]

Yes, it is in the same connector, 2 contact spaces away.

[Alleyoop]

Well if you pushed the button and you get nothing means the PUSH BUTTON GROUND has a problem so manually ground that one to frame and see if it then spins the motor.

[olivertwisted]

If you are referring to the START ground, I already had ran a new ground for it. It is in place now . Is that the one you refer to?

I also just spliced a new ground to frame to the green wire on the same connector as the B/W kill wire, but get the opposite result than I was looking for, I got ;

Kill Switch to the LEFT got spark, Kill Switch to the RIGHT, no spark .

[olivertwisted]

DOH! I just made sense of your directions on the green wire Ill try THAT now, lol!

[Alleyoop]

Ok here is your switchs:


Now from how the switchs are and wired I think they work as below:

1. If switched to the killwire the push button does nothing.
2. If switched to the RUN position then it grounds the start button and the motor turns over.
Alleyoop

[olivertwisted]

AND after removing the splice connector, I see that it had NOT made contact in the green wire that I connected to so, the above results are void ,anyway.

[Alleyoop]

so with it wired as is no manual grounds flick it to run position and it should crank the motor over and if not then the green wire for the start button is not grounded.