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Post by sabotendar on Mar 30, 2014 15:55:57 GMT -6
OK guys I've got it all figured out. First of all I just put in a image resize plugin and you will see all photos reduced in size, this helps the page load faster especially for slower computers. Now if you put your cursor/hand over the photo and click it will go back to the original size, nice when you need to view a diagram in full view.
OK point blank this "is" a Hyosung scooter and here is the service manual for it:
www.jr-richscooterdoc.com/Hyosung_SF50_prima_service_manual.pdf
Second of all this is "not" a Dc type CDI but a AC type, here is the wiring diagram:
CDI = 6-wire and the colors and where they go are as follows and this scooter "does" not have a engine kill switch on the handle bars, it is stopped through ignition key switch.
B/W (black/white) = ground B/R (black/red) = AC feed from stator to CDI Br (brown) = pulse coil W (white) = pulse coil B/Y (black/yellow) = CDI kill wire from key switch W/L (white/blue) = feed to spark plug coil
Here is the CDI pin layout and color scheme from the manual:
Also in his photo he posted the R/R and it is a 4-wire version and the colors are:
White/red = AC from stator to R/R Yellow/White = Ac from stator to R/R Red = DC charging voltage to battery Black/white = ground.
Now if he is to convert it to another CDI got to have a 6-wire type and know the pin layout on it also. Now here is something we need to know, do we have AC from the stator feed wire (B/R) and on the pulse coil wire and yes it is a 2-wire pulse coil version?
JR
I Love you JR! Now i can remake all the wires from this mess, but how to change for anoter CDI? A modern one? I have bad news i open the carb again and see that jet he is realy clogged so i "fabric" a tool to reach until he but, for my deception, he is outworn and can remove that someone before me "plays" with no limits with that carb i almost loose my hope about this carb guys and to be honest i have to adapt another model sold here in Brazil any sugestions?
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Post by Alleyoop on Mar 30, 2014 16:52:55 GMT -6
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Post by tvnacman on Mar 30, 2014 18:02:39 GMT -6
my money is it is ac cdi , if the stator he posted a picture of is a replacement for his stator . That is not a 3phase stator the paper wraped coil is the ac coil for ignition . cdi wiring : Fixed ground switched ground power pulse (could be 2 wire) feed to coil crank the engine and read acv from the white wire , let us know . John can we get an answer to this post ? Jack I don't know how or where you found the posted info on this . I suspect you can use that pick up coil by grounding one of the two wires , but we still need to know what the acv is . We also need to know what the voltage is to power the cdi off the stator . John
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Post by JR on Mar 30, 2014 19:18:57 GMT -6
my money is it is ac cdi , if the stator he posted a picture of is a replacement for his stator . That is not a 3phase stator the paper wraped coil is the ac coil for ignition . cdi wiring : Fixed ground switched ground power pulse (could be 2 wire) feed to coil crank the engine and read acv from the white wire , let us know . John can we get an answer to this post ? Jack I don't know how or where you found the posted info on this . I suspect you can use that pick up coil by grounding one of the two wires , but we still need to know what the acv is . We also need to know what the voltage is to power the cdi off the stator . John You're preaching to the choir.
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Post by Alleyoop on Mar 30, 2014 19:38:33 GMT -6
You guys should know JR is the GOOGLER KING not even KING KONG has anything over him, I have said it many time when he magically pops up some link of a part NOBODY could find Alleyoop
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Post by sabotendar on Mar 30, 2014 19:40:24 GMT -6
Hey if JR says he knows what he talk ;-)
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Post by sabotendar on Mar 30, 2014 19:46:09 GMT -6
Hey about my old CDI? is easy to find a new to replace the old one. And about my carb i will replace for anoter one buy here in Brazil i can replace with anyone that fit or i have to look for one in specific?
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Post by Alleyoop on Mar 30, 2014 19:51:38 GMT -6
You can put on a carb that will fit same size as what is on there. Alleyoop
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Post by sabotendar on Mar 30, 2014 21:41:13 GMT -6
You can put on a carb that will fit same size as what is on there. Alleyoop Ok Alley, i will search here, i have 1 month to make a way to fix that scoot for my wife. The good thing is if not working she dont have to know ;-)
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Post by Alleyoop on Mar 30, 2014 21:57:00 GMT -6
Did you see the link I put up of the exact same carb you have on it? It is expensive because they don't make them anymore but it is brand new. Alleyoop
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Post by tvnacman on Mar 31, 2014 3:25:15 GMT -6
You guys should know JR is the GOOGLER KING not even KING KONG has anything over him, I have said it many time when he magically pops up some link of a part NOBODY could find Alleyoop I wonder if its JR's spam server LOL John
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Post by sabotendar on Mar 31, 2014 3:35:56 GMT -6
Did you see the link I put up of the exact same carb you have on it? It is expensive because they don't make them anymore but it is brand new. Alleyoop Yea i see but the importation will spansive, beside i dont want to use my credit card now.
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Post by sabotendar on Mar 31, 2014 4:57:58 GMT -6
Today i will look for a similar carb and make some changes on the conections from the old one to the new one to have a way fit a new carb when came on my work i will post my idea.
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Post by JR on Mar 31, 2014 6:48:02 GMT -6
You guys should know JR is the GOOGLER KING not even KING KONG has anything over him, I have said it many time when he magically pops up some link of a part NOBODY could find Alleyoop I wonder if its JR's spam server LOL John Ok parts man don't make me show you up on finding this CDI!
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Post by tvnacman on Mar 31, 2014 11:12:24 GMT -6
Well without stator voltage readings how fo you know you need a cdi .
John
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