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Post by seanstr on Oct 29, 2016 18:45:12 GMT -6
I went down on jet size to 108. I can now get up to 43 or so, not fixed, but closet
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Post by seanstr on Oct 28, 2016 23:16:02 GMT -6
I'll post a picture of the offending plug brass tomorrow.
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Post by seanstr on Oct 28, 2016 22:46:53 GMT -6
Tried CDI, but the others I have blew fuses, lol.
Did replace spark plug, no affect.
Tried the ignition coil. It's not good, so I tried to use a replacement one I had, it didn't work. I am waiting for a replacement from Amazon.
I am real sure the ignition coil was bad. The brass fitting in the ignition coil that attaches to the spark plug had eaten through the brass.
So I'm going with that as a problem. I'm tired it's almost midnight. I'll wait for replacement, I'll continue the process if this doesn't fix it. I have vacuum lines I can replace, and a full set of main jets higher and lower.
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Post by seanstr on Oct 28, 2016 11:46:31 GMT -6
Thank you 5) Float/Float valve/Float level – Your owner’s manual has the correct level and procedure for calibrating your bike. Here are some symptoms that would indicate the need for float adjustment. My float looked perfectly level. A) If float level is too high, the float bowl overflows out the drain hoses, and fuel often blocks the air passages that allow the carb to de-pressurize. This causes a bog, or hiccup over large hits. B) If float level is too low, the engine starves for fuel off idle, causing a “boooooowang” sound very similar to a pilot jet or air screw set too lean. I get bogging at 30mph. take off is great. 5) Always check for clogged carb vent lines. Clogged lines will cause hard starting and bogging when the motor is hot. They can also cause erratic running that seems to mimic a mis-adjusted float, but worse. Performance will seem rich and acceleration will be sluggish off idle. Starts easy, so probably not this. B) Motor knock knock knocks at idle when hot. Try solution A. If problem persists, perform a “leakdown pressure test” to check for ignition crank seal leakage. Not sure about this at all.
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Post by seanstr on Oct 28, 2016 10:34:22 GMT -6
I just thought about my coil wire that "doesn't fit".
It's the plastic that goes around the engine only that is stopping the plug wire from getting to spark plug.
I will just cut the plastic a bit away to give it room to get to the plug.
Sorry that I am so stupid.
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Post by seanstr on Oct 28, 2016 7:11:59 GMT -6
Even though I replaced my airbox with a K&N cone, at 366 miles, and up jetted to a 115 main at the same time..... my 150cc scoot came stock with a 105 main jet, and ran fine. Your 125cc model, with a stock airbox and exhaust, running a 110 or 115, in my opinion is over jetted. Now if you had a free flowing exhaust, or a K&N type of air filter, a jet in that range would probably work fine. Have you pulled the spark plug yet? A quick look at it will tell you if I am right...or wrong. You are reading my mind or something, I was thinking, I have fuel, and air, I need consistent spark. So I am looking at replacing coil/plug wire. I have a new one but it doesn't fit the spark plug that goes in scooter. I would need to get a half inch longer or more spark plug or order a new stock replacement from lance dealer which can take a very long time to come in. I also have 2 spare CDI's, with one being adjustable.
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Post by seanstr on Oct 27, 2016 19:28:08 GMT -6
Replaced diaphragm, but that didn't fit correctly, started bit would allow quick throttle, tried to died immediately. But originally back in.
Sprayed carb cleaner in inlet for fuel to bowl. Cut off works great too.
So, started let warm up again. Readjusted fuel mixture for a lot longer. I'll test tomorrow on way to work.
Lance Cali Classic 125cc. If this don't work carb replacement ideas would be helpful.
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Post by seanstr on Oct 27, 2016 18:01:42 GMT -6
OK, new fuel filter installed, still bogging. I don't know where to go now.
I've cleaned, I've checked for leaks in vacuum and gas lines.
I've checked that the fuel is getting to carb, i need to take bowl off, start scooter and make sure fuel is getting in bowl.
I didn't clean the line coming in on the carb. I'll do that next.
I checked the diaphragm. I bought new, I'll try to install. I tried moving the needle up. This didn't help.
Tried larger jet, from 110 to 115. Still bogging at 30mph.
Checked for obstructions in air intake, and that air filter is good.
Re checked the valve clearance.
Checked for air leaks around the carb and intake going in to the engine and around the air box, and air intake.
I'm lost. If the diaphragm doesn't fix it and there is no problems at the fuel inlet going to bowl I have no where left to go.
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Post by seanstr on Oct 27, 2016 6:54:01 GMT -6
I never measure, just put some in! Probably a couple caps. Yep, says 1 oz to each gallon. I'm replacing fuel filter next. It was new, but just to be sure.
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Post by seanstr on Oct 27, 2016 3:48:55 GMT -6
sea foam with your gas once in a while can prevent this. I live across the river from St Louis, the entire metro area is ethenol gas, only one place that doesn't and it's far away. So sea foam a cap full every tank?
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Post by seanstr on Oct 26, 2016 17:33:07 GMT -6
vacuum leaks cause all kinds of hell. Yours is new enough that you should not have to worry about bad hoses but they do happen. The 2008 era scooters were plagued with bad hoses and other small components and the fix was in a complete pdi. that included replacing before even starting the scooter. Go into the library here and look up carb cleaning, there are several well written guides there. People keep overlooking our library, there is a lot of good information there. I checked the library well before I cleaned. So I took of air filter, made sure no obstruction, there was nothing. Decided to take carb apart at the bowl, used carb cleaner, sprayed in the main yet, idle jet, etc, took off the auto choke, did same. Put back together. Started, warmed back up, re adjusted fuel mixture, it's way different. I'll try the other jet again later or one of the others when they get here.
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Post by seanstr on Oct 26, 2016 14:45:51 GMT -6
I think I should have gotten more involved in checking and cleaning the carburetor.
I still think I need to do this.
Start at the fuel tank line and check fuel filter.
Take off the lines. Make sure they are not clogged.
Do the same for vacuum lines.
I could use a vacuum and block off one end to make sure it is still a good hose. If it leaks It wouldn't completely collapse. I did the whole carb cleaner on the vacuum hoses, air box, air intake to the carb, and the entire carburetor. No change in idle.
I checked the bowl float. It is as level as I could make it.
I need to spray carb cleaner down all ports in carburetor still.
I'll take off the Auto choke, spray in there too?
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Post by seanstr on Oct 26, 2016 10:55:02 GMT -6
You can fiddle all you want with the idle mixture screw, and it isn't going to effect your main jet, or make your scooter run right at the speed where your problem starts. You put in a larger main, and the problem got worse. That's gotta tell you, that you went the wrong way when changing it. Should have gone smaller. Bet your plug is black as coal. I figured, I ordered a kit, will try the 108. It does have a 110 in it. I am having to turn in almost all the way in. With the 110 it can to 40 mph before bogging, then I can mess with fuel air mixture a bit to get it to not bog until like 47mph. So, when the 108 comes I'll try that out. It also comes with a 105. That seems it would be too small, but I don't until I try out the 108. Thank you all for the insights.
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Post by seanstr on Oct 25, 2016 20:44:07 GMT -6
Ok have adjusted the carburetor fuel mixture. I turn it all the way in back out about one and a half turns, I tried to make it more Rich by turning in another half turn but it was too much having the just the idol. I then turn your back in and then turn it back in one more time buy half turn and the idle and back up a little bit and then I stopped. So it's getting less air now put more fuel because the jet is now 115 instead of a 110. I will text you tomorrow and update on how it went.
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Post by seanstr on Oct 25, 2016 12:35:12 GMT -6
I didn't adjust the fuel air mixture yet. I didn't think it would need it.
My thinking was it is the main jet, The Idle jet and the intermediate didn't change so the main jet should be for past a certain speed.
Maybe it is for after 30 mph.
I also was thinking the fuel air mixture adjusts after warmed up and idling.
So how could that affect it?
Obviously it does.
I have to start over, screw back in, turn back 1 and half turns, then adjust from there.
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