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Exactly, if the people ( I'll remind you Chinese) don't have the proper skills they don't build a Durable machine.

So if the scooter endures then it was skillfully built and will be durable.

600 mile ride, riding on all forms of terrain and 3 opinions isn't enough to know either way.

Now if they don't show up on Craigslist like you hope for where they are affordable then you'll know someone is still riding it or still making payments.

Aussies ride on flat ground and straight roads and any machine no matter what it is wears and loses engine endurance, speed and reliability ran at higher speeds than at less agressive slower speeds, not a hard thing to know.

I'm like the other fellow, not going to get out on the interstate with the idiots, besides what's the hurry? When one thinks about it scooters except here were never thought of for 70MPH plus riders. Small wheels, light weight and small engines, yes I know you could put a goldwing engine in one if you wanted to but why?

Lot more fun to go to the store for that milk easing along a pretty two lane highway at about 50 and just looking at creation.

On the interstate you're looking at other idiots just to survive in any machine. If you're looking at anything else you end up being a statistic.

Here's what I know. At least two reporters took a Jetmax on the freeway. To me that's the true test of versatility

If it does it for kkkkkkkk's and normal PM then you can say that. Part of versatlity is endurance and two reports doesn't cover that.

But not on interstates or freeways, apparently. Unlike the ability of CF Motos to do it.

All depends on if you have the nerve to do it? Personally I don't think any scooter belongs on a freeway or interstate. One why take the risk of being blown off the road by semis which was one of the reasons interstates were made for and second why would you want to ride a scooter that is so fun to ride in an enviroment that every second you have that worry?

I ride a scooter for fun pleasure and at times for savings and any place I go with the exception of one large city where I have children at I don't have to take the risk of getting killed or run over on a interstate where people run 70mph.

Not only does this kill fuel savings on any scooter it takes away from it's longevity no matter what kind you ride.

If I get in big enough hurry that I want to move at 70mph plus I ride in a cage or fly in a airplane.

One last thing riding on smooth flat interstate no big deal, bring your scooter out in the heat and hills and push the 70 mph envelope and then tell me it's gonna hang in there. Bring it to where your everday riding is like this and push it 70mph.





I quit mowing on my yard yesterday at 12:15 p.m. and hopped on my 250 and headed up to the country store 5 miles up the road for a cold glass of ice tea and the gas station digital sign read 105F.

It ain't no fun riding in that either! ;D

Replacement information can be found here on either one of the reflex clones.

thescooterprofessor.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=250classchinese&thread=1846&page=1

No way I would pay that for a 50cc scooter of any name, IMO 50cc scooters are for kids and have no place on the open road except for a commuter in the city for say college kids which is a cheap way of getting around while in school. Or maybe for people who are retired and take one on a trip with the camper to just putt around on while on vacation.

Too many of them are used for people who can't keep a drivers license and their state lets them by with them which is also coming to an end.

Looks like Kymco is doing like CfMoto pricing themselves out of the US market. The reliability is not a question.

What? So now you are questioning Dave's review? One that does a fair and non-influenced review with no hidden things to gain by it?

What about his final conclusion? It's apparent that it does not compare to the Japan and Tiawinese scooters. He gave it a good rating for the drivetrain but other than that his review was cheap scooter and he even compared it to another CFMoto scooter.

There's no doubt the 250B is cheap quality on the plastics and such but the drivetrain on it has a good record too with both style engines.

Lastly in the market if you're going to pay over $3k for a scooter you need over $3k quality and $3k quality means a $3k glovebox, panels etc.

I'm betting old Dave could see it very clearly, who knows maybe they took his review to heart, made improvements and Vinters will be better? For the sake of his checkbook I hope so.

Not a very good feeling to expect more for bigger $$$$ and get less.