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Post by clonedrone on Feb 18, 2014 13:03:02 GMT -6
The valves on a China scooter are spun welded where the shaft meets the head. The material stretches for awhile until they get some miles on them. New 50cc engines that only start out at .002 need to be monitored the first couple of thousand miles religiously. After that they stop stretching and can go much further safely. Sorry Bro going to have to disagree with ya here. The process is called Inertia Welding. The Finest Valves in the World are manufactured this way, It was invented by CAT tractor, They Inertia Weld Locomotive Cylinders. The issue is the Valve seats are of a soft Cast iron, Once heat cycled and the engine is broke in the seats pretty much stay in place.
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Post by clonedrone on Feb 18, 2014 10:16:59 GMT -6
Not enough information to come to a conclusion. Was there a stroker crank part of this build? Considering if the case boring was a perfect circle off Center? Note how thin on one side and not the other. Looking at the case bore job alone several measurements should have been taken before final assembly. Looks like the cylinder flange thickness is around .035, this is absolute Min. thickness. I dont like to go below .039 unless a sleeve is cast in a cylinder. Neglected to ask if a stock cylinder head and gasket was used? Squish would be stock bore side and the piston most likely hit the cylinder head. From the looks of the sloppy Permatex job alone looks like a all around Butcher Job!
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Post by clonedrone on Jan 2, 2014 7:13:30 GMT -6
Any of you other old crusty guys remember what we used for antifreeze before Ethylene Glycol? Remember Dry Gas? or Fuel Line anti freeze as it was sometimes called. Back in my day my Methanol Powered Yam, Kt100's had to be fluched with mixed gas after every event. the 360ci and 410 ci sprinter's in my current involvement do not require flushing.
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Post by clonedrone on Dec 27, 2013 14:52:45 GMT -6
I think I have some Ti retainers that are CRN coated I can use. I'll do a REM Isotropic Finish to the Valve Springs along with some oil Pump parts and the Gear Set, I can do that in house. I haven't been able to match up any ti Valves with what I have in stock ie MX 150cc, 250cc and 450cc of all colors. Would cost me $116. each to make them, and I work here!
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Post by clonedrone on Dec 26, 2013 12:38:02 GMT -6
Have you looked at titanium valve springs? No such thing. I ordered the as advertised Titanium Springs. Last time I checked Titanium is not magnetic, There just sprayed with a worthless coloring. Same quality of the inner spring coils going in the same direction as the outer spring, looks like something robbed out of a Spiral book binder. I will post spring specs for this spring as well.
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Post by clonedrone on Dec 26, 2013 10:05:31 GMT -6
Interesting read. In the midst of my build I see the Valve springs as a real problem. I have three new sets from various vendors. Doesn't look like any thought or engineering is put into this area. For instance, All the springs I have have the inner spring coils going in the same direction as the outer Spring. Huh? Valve train #101 this setup translates bad ju ju Harmonics. the inner spring's all look like a Coil out of a Spiral Binder, A stiffer spring just increases my seat pressure, then I need to look at a different material for Valve seats. I have tried matching up to no avail with a high end PSI or PAC valve spring. I'll post what I end up doing along with my opening and set pressures and coil bind mesurements.
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Post by clonedrone on Dec 23, 2013 7:04:15 GMT -6
Cool! Now the oil co. can start putting back in the good stuff they took out. Lets start with the Sulphor.
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Post by clonedrone on Dec 5, 2013 7:09:04 GMT -6
In addition to the above with stock internals you have lost the Intake Velocity of the stock carb. Way over intaked and carbureted. You need the velocity to help atomize the fuel air mix better. that 32mm is just dumping big drops in there I don't think you will ever get it to run correctly with that set-up. I recommend you just jet the stock carb,
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Post by clonedrone on Dec 3, 2013 7:12:32 GMT -6
Cycra Plastics has a tons of choices. Made in the USA
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Post by clonedrone on Nov 18, 2013 14:55:22 GMT -6
techline coating. on the piston skirt......very good.. The Product is pretty for doing at home. One thing is I have had many "Bake" the Temper right out of the Piston. They go to Butter. I'll use Polydyne or Swaintech.
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Post by clonedrone on Nov 15, 2013 7:16:24 GMT -6
So I just received NCY as Advertised Titanium valve springs. Maybe in some different Hemisphere or Dimension Ti becomes magnetic. The Price of $16. plus change told the story. And just like the 61 mm big valve head I have the inner and outer coils run in the same direction? LOL. Valve train Harmonics room #101 No, No! I will try to resource some good product from PSI or PAC or R&D. Taking lots of pictures of before and after of Cylinder head, Cylinder and Piston to be coated. Piston needs Pin oilers drilled.
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Post by clonedrone on Nov 6, 2013 10:29:02 GMT -6
Genuine Chrome bore requires a Moly type ring.More accurately Phosphate Coated Iron ring. I haven't seen a OE Cylinder since 1979 Honda CR125 and 250. Some old Kawasaki Sleds used Chrome, They'd flake No issue as No O.E's or Re-Plating Co's use Chrome. (even U.S.- Chrome in WI). Its all Nicol Silicon Carbide, theres some Phosphuros in there too, You can use a standard Stainless or TiN Coated ring. Plated cylinders are used exclusively in all modern MX and Sport bikes. I much prefer the Plating in the Powesports market.
I just recieved the 61mm, NCY kit, Its Alum.Cyl, with a Cast in Iron Sleeve. I will be shipping to Swain Tech for a bunch of Coating's Along with Cylinder head and valves. Those Ol Briggs motors had Plated pistons.
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Post by clonedrone on Nov 6, 2013 8:07:51 GMT -6
Wha'st good about a Iron Boreable Cylinder if there are no oversize"s available? I haven't found any regular over sizes (.25mm, .5mm, 1.mm etc). Agree and Disagree, For less than the cost of a bore job a brand knew cylinder and piston kit is less costly. Please correct me if I'm wrong. the closest is the 58.5mm that's roughly .060 inch I don't know if the OE sleeve will accept that.
In a mildly high perf, application there's nothing I like or "Pro" about a Iron Bore, Thermal expansion, I can run a tighter piston to cylinder clearance with a Plated bore thus greater ring seal, cooling running piston, etc, Heat dissipation, It's soft, etc,
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Post by clonedrone on Nov 5, 2013 7:17:13 GMT -6
Agreed. I get discrepancy information from different from Vendors. Wish I could find a BB Plated cylinder vs Iron Sleeve cylinder. Iron is best used on the back yard BBQ for its heat retention properties. not mentioning its Thermal Expansion qualities.
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Post by clonedrone on Nov 4, 2013 13:45:52 GMT -6
What is the composition of what you sell?
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