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Post by sabotendar on Apr 3, 2014 19:54:29 GMT -6
Then your WR and YW are probably OK. WR charges the battery and YW is 12v AC to lights. I'm convinced it's the trigger. When You have it off check the coil carefully, there may be a small defect in a wire where it connects to the coil. Sometimes the coil itself goes bad. You deal with electronics, you know how that goes. Rich Hey i have bad and good news frist the good news i dont remove the coil but i clean it a slim brush and many alchool and folow the hint from Rich and remove old spark from cilinder and the quick start runs better whit no compression, ok i turn on the key and start the motor and i have spark simultaneus, test the stator coil about 50v YW and WR so i have bad news i put the new spark on cilinder and connect the boot cap and start the motor and the same erroneus with the spark sometimes spark and sometimes nothing but whem i remove the spark from cilinder i have contínuos spark like before so i think its have some connection with the compression on cilinder something to dificult the motor to running well, guys i font have more clubes about that. Sabor. |
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Post by sabotendar on Apr 3, 2014 18:04:47 GMT -6
Hey guys sorry to not respond i have busy on work today many PCs and games to fix in little time...anyway...  Ok my bat is new but i put the old spark on cilinder when i make my tests so i have compression besides the cilinder have gas and the scoot will be stored inside my house at night and my wife not like of smell of gas inside the house (woman thing)  and i have to make magic to disappear with the smell. My charger is not potent so the bat will be discharge fast. The continuity on wires are good, without patches and bad contacts...and the voltage are the same on CDI. Do you think that trigger coil is not working well because of dirt or is it really bad? Hey Rich when the scoot works the lamps working well good and the batery are good too but i buy a new batery to make the start better. Sabo. |
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Post by sabotendar on Apr 3, 2014 4:56:37 GMT -6
I have a partial test.
on THIS VIDEO all the times you see spark i have about 0.1~0.2 volts on pulse coil tested whit multi on white and brown wires. On BY on CDI i have about 14.5~16.5 volts all the tests with AC set on multi. I see many oil mixed with dirty on pulse coil the problem can be caused by dirty? How cleanup? I try to remove the coil but it have 2 bolts one i can remove easily but the another one is stuck and my screwdriver almost danificate the bolt. Oh gosh! another stuck bolt  . To do the tests i have to use the batery but quick start consumes many amperes from bat and he losses the charge again so i put on charge AGAIN  i cannot complete the tests because the batery is runnig low.
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Post by sabotendar on Apr 2, 2014 18:02:24 GMT -6
Sabo, I'm sorry, I haven't been following and I've been slammed at work today. I will look at your wiring diagram after I ride home from work. I think the problem may be your pickup coil. I would first take both wires off of the pickup. Put your meter to AC voltage. Put a probe in each wire from the stator. Black and red doesn't matter, it's AC. Kill function, if you have one, in the run mode. Key on, crank it and give me the voltage, or you may get nothing. It will be low...like .05v AC. Do that and we can go from there. My feeling is that AC circuit is both legs of a circuit and doesn't ground. I'll look at the diagram though when I get home. Rich Ok i will wait for your reply. |
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Post by sabotendar on Apr 2, 2014 15:00:30 GMT -6
The boot cap turn it until it is tight on the wire, it is a screw inside the boot cap just like screwing something into a wall. The stator you need to find the one that feeds the power to the CDI NOT the kill switch wire. And yes on the test for pickup coil, the wire going to the CDI is the one that should get around .05 volts from the stator as you crank it. Alleyoop Ok i will turn it until is tight and do the tests with the stator. Hey Alley you noticed i make a post to talk about my carb and end we talked about eletrics? And in my other post we are talk about eletrics we are talked about my carb? what madness...  |
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Post by sabotendar on Apr 2, 2014 14:28:41 GMT -6
My scoot dont have kill switch on its kick stand same with rear brake lever. Here in Brazil is hilly but in some places are flat depends on location in my region for example is hilly  Great to hear you are getting gas from the pilot jet I knew you could do it. As for the Spark coming and going it could be few things. You will need a MULTI METER to find which part is causing the intermittent spark. 1. First thing is check the BOOT CAP unless it is a new one If Old make sure it is making good contact with the COIL wire. They usually screw on, so turn it CLOCKWISE nice and tight. Also check the COIL wire at the COIL ITSELF. If that is all good then you have some testing to do. 2. You need to find if the stator is sending CONSTANT VAC to the CDI so find the wire from the stator that feeds the CDI. If it is sending constant voltage then the stator appears to be doing its job. 3. Then you need to test the PICK UP COIL to see if it is sending around .05 volts as your cranking the motor. If that is CONSTANT and not breaking up then I would say its your CDI or COIL. But there are Some good Electrical Gurus on here so they may chime in and have a better idea. Alleyoop 1. Ok Coil is new and i test before i put on scoot, the boot cap is new too but i dont understand the procedure to fit it on wire out from coil i atach the wire on boot cap and turn clockwise until think he is fixed but i think if turn more a litle he will turn. 2. How to test the stator? the black proof of multimeter (-) on ground and the other ( + ) on wires out from stator? The wire that feeds the CDI is the same from kill switch? 3. I think the Pick up coil have 2 wires if is the case how to test? black proof of multimeter (-) on ground and the other ( + ) on wires out from Pick up? |
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Post by sabotendar on Apr 2, 2014 3:42:04 GMT -6
Hey good news i fix the carb i decloggled the slow jet now i have spark and gas on cilinder but the motor dont work i dont have a clue about the problem so i remove the spark and see something strange the sparks are not sequential i adjust the distance between the anodes but not without result dont you can help me? See the video --> Ignition spark |
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Post by sabotendar on Apr 1, 2014 15:58:23 GMT -6
It may run but it would be at a pretty high idle. Have you tried sticking thin wire down the jet to see if you can get it unclogged? also Carb Cleaner stick the thin straw into the jet hole and spray your arse off. Alleyoop I try to put a needle in the jet but she dont reach until the end of jet i'll try to put a product called "car 80" say that dissolves carbon if it is the cause of clogging but i do not have many hope about the carb. |
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Post by sabotendar on Apr 1, 2014 15:16:40 GMT -6
Helo!
I have a carb with the slow jet jammed and clogged on there so no way to get start my scoot, i have a question if i open the injection needle when i pull the throttle and start the engine it should not work and running while I accelerate?
Sorry for the noob question.
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Post by sabotendar on Apr 1, 2014 11:39:31 GMT -6
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Post by sabotendar on Mar 31, 2014 14:48:32 GMT -6
Well without stator voltage readings how fo you know you need a cdi . John This time i have to find a carb to put that scooter working again soon i replace the carb i will put the voltages from stator my idea make a adaptation to fit a better carb whitout eletronic enricher, today was a busy day im my work so i have a litle time to talk to you guys but tomorrow i will do a pilgrimage here to find a blacksmith to fabric a new admission colector or modify what i have..Sabotendar. |
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Post by sabotendar on Mar 31, 2014 4:57:58 GMT -6
Today i will look for a similar carb and make some changes on the conections from the old one to the new one to have a way fit a new carb when came on my work i will post my idea.
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Post by sabotendar on Mar 31, 2014 3:35:56 GMT -6
Did you see the link I put up of the exact same carb you have on it? It is expensive because they don't make them anymore but it is brand new. Alleyoop Yea i see but the importation will spansive, beside i dont want to use my credit card now. |
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Post by sabotendar on Mar 30, 2014 21:41:13 GMT -6
You can put on a carb that will fit same size as what is on there. Alleyoop Ok Alley, i will search here, i have 1 month to make a way to fix that scoot for my wife. The good thing is if not working she dont have to know ;-) |
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Post by sabotendar on Mar 30, 2014 19:46:09 GMT -6
Hey about my old CDI? is easy to find a new to replace the old one. And about my carb i will replace for anoter one buy here in Brazil i can replace with anyone that fit or i have to look for one in specific?
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and i have to make magic to disappear with the smell. My charger is not potent so the bat will be discharge fast.
. To do the tests i have to use the batery but quick start consumes many amperes from bat and he losses the charge again so i put on charge AGAIN 
i cannot complete the tests because the batery is runnig low.
