To get a bit more scoot By alansd (Read 589 times)

[alansd]

My Scooter runs great and does pretty well cruising, but of course slows down on any hill. If I update the variators weights to sliders, can I expect a bit more power for the hills? If so what weight should I look for?
Any other tips are appreciated.

[dazza]

What size engine does your scooter have? Dropping down in roller weights does allow your scoot to reach higher rpm's, which increases acceleration and good for inclines but does affect top speed. My scoot had 14g rollers in it when i bought it, changed to 12g and now im using 11g slider weights. I hardly ride on highways and i like riding my scooter up the mountain roads on weekends so that setup works well for my liking

[Bashan]

You might consider installing a stiffer torque spring too. That would hold you more in the lower ratios where climbing is easier. Rich

[alansd]

49 cc is what it has. The scooter does pretty well, but inclines are noticeably slower

[alansd]

I don't ever ride on major roads or highways, just two lanes around the town. Traffic is usually 35-45 mph range

[dazza]

You may have to play around abit to get the scoot to run how it suits you. This is my piaggio zip 50cc 2-stroke scooter and have got it running very good for straights and hills.

Im pretty sure when standard it had 7.5g roller weights in it and the scooter was alittle sluggish off the mark and would struggle on hills (especially with my weight on it). I de-restricted it and changed the weights down to 6.5g, after that it had abit more oomph on take off and accelerated better going uphill. But knowing me I wanted more out of it and I put on a Leo Vince power pipe and went 2 sizes up on the main jet still using stock airbox. Had alittle more power but still lacked.. so I ended up removing the 6.5g weights and only put 3 stock weights back in the variator. Far out.. the thing screams off the mark doing good wheelies and it gets up hills very well lol. On a straight, it gets up to 60km/h much quicker and reaches 80km/h.

So have a play around with the roller weights and see how that goes, my idea using 3 weights is at your own risk if you were to try that. The spring is a good idea to that rich mentioned. Have a play and see how you go, its all trial and error

[tvnacman]

35 40 mph with a 50cc thats a little slim . BBK or a larger scooter like a 150cc . You can weigh your rollers and then get lighter ones that may help .


John

[Bashan]

I like the stiffer torque spring because theoretically it allows you to slip down into lower ratios easier when you hit a hill, but still keep your top end. The weights eventually overcome the spring and get the CVT into it's highest possible ratio, but it does take a little longer. I in fact did this and it worked just like that. But some guys report that the top end never quite returns, then you could tweak with higher weights and......see what you're getting into?

[Alleyoop]

All good pooper scoopers just that to not loose to much mph going up a hill you do need more RPMS to keep the motor in the powerband. A 50cc stock you can only expect about 20-25mph going up a hill. How you want the CVT setup is when going up a hill to only loose a couple hundred RPMS and that is the best you can do.

To setup your motor and CVT and tuning you do need a TACH without one you will waste a lot of time and money.
Alleyoop