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Post by Bashan on Jan 25, 2015 11:40:21 GMT -6
Make sure the brake is released before you put the wheel back on.
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Post by heruk on Jan 25, 2015 12:52:04 GMT -6
its on but now i have to take it off again to fill it... lol
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Post by Bashan on Jan 25, 2015 14:25:09 GMT -6
Just run the adjuster out so the shoes will be loose then readjust after everything is installed.
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Post by heruk on Jan 25, 2015 15:45:57 GMT -6
I cant get it filled. I even used the tire iron to pull t he tire past the bead and it still wont inflate... it comes out of this spot  |
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Post by cyborg on Jan 25, 2015 17:17:30 GMT -6
If the rim is badly scarred on the inside of the lip you may have toasted it and it may not get a good seal and will leak,,, you may have to run a tube and as a side note you need to change that support bearing in the swing arm ,, it is surely bad,,,we don't want you to get hurt Heruk,,, we need all the members we can get,,,
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Post by heruk on Jan 25, 2015 20:57:39 GMT -6
thanks
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Post by heruk on Jan 26, 2015 6:16:18 GMT -6
do you have to balance an inner tube? or do you just put it in and pray?
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Post by rks on Jan 26, 2015 7:05:22 GMT -6
An inner tube is not the answer, if the bead of the tire is not set. I have read and re-read this thread, and I'm still not sure exactly what your problem is...so tell us....is the bead set, and the tire just won't hold air....or.....the bead is not set, so you can't get the tire to inflate.
A ratchet strap, wrapped around the circumference of the tire will help you get the bead set, if that is the problem.
I have never found a need to use more air pressure to set a bead, than that listed on the sidewall as maximum operating pressure.
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Post by heruk on Jan 26, 2015 7:37:21 GMT -6
I'm not sure exactly what you mean by bead is set. my assumption is you mean that the inner edges of the tire are flush against the rims edge as opposed to stuck in the center of the rim... get me? The tire seems to be in position as I even used a tire iron to pull the tire into position. so yea the bead appears to be set but I'm assuming set means no air will come out of the side because the tired is flush with the rim.
a ratchet strap? how tight?
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Post by cyborg on Jan 26, 2015 8:25:05 GMT -6
what Rks is true,,you put the strap around the circumference and tighten it down,,,but if the rim lip is as scarred as the outside you may still have leakage,,,,but give her a try,,,it's worth a try
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Post by heruk on Jan 26, 2015 9:07:44 GMT -6
how tight? should it make an indentation?
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Post by rks on Jan 26, 2015 10:21:46 GMT -6
You don't use tire irons to pull a tire into place. Only to mount or dismount a tire from the rim. Air pressure is used set the bead. (get the tire to edges of the rim) You will hear an audible POP, (sometimes more than one) when the bead sets. Check the mounting ring on each side of tire...this is a very thin line molded into the tire, that goes all the way around it, maybe 1/8" or so above the rim. It should be the same distance from the rim, all the way around. If it's 1/4" away in one place, and almost touching in another, you need to break the bead, lube, and reset. Like I said, each side of the tire has this mounting ring, and the distance between it and the rim should be the same all the way around.
All tires have these, be it a car, a motorcycle, or a tractor trailer.....and you would be surprised how many employees at tire shops know nothing about it.
There are a couple of vidio's in the library on mounting MC tires...might be of some help
I certainly hope the inside of your rim isn't gouged up like the outside.
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Post by heruk on Jan 26, 2015 11:03:17 GMT -6
the distance is about the same but im sure the bead isn't seated properly
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Post by cyborg on Jan 26, 2015 13:05:31 GMT -6
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I certainly hope the inside of your rim isn't gouged up like the outside.[/quote]
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my thoughts exactly RKS
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Post by rks on Jan 26, 2015 16:12:57 GMT -6
I think at this point, I'd want to break the tire down to check for damage to the rim in that location. If there are any burrs or sharp edges where the bead lives, they will need to be sanded down as smooth as possible...then you can install a tube. If there is no damage to the inside of rim, I would lube the bottom edge of the bead, and see if you can get it to seat. I use a little waterless hand cleaner, on 1 finger, spread all the way around the bottom edge of the tire bead. You don't need gobs of it...just a very thin coating to help it slide into place. A teaspoonn of water, with a few drops of dish soap, would also work.
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