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Post by jct842 on Feb 6, 2015 15:01:56 GMT -6
I probably would not buy a kenda either but are you sure it was the fault of the tire as far as the stripped bead? I have no idea of how you are working with your tire installs, are you using tire tools designed for bikes? There are people who love kendas and seem to have no problems with them. 2 in a row seems a little weird. If they all had bad beads I would expect to hear all kinds of crying about kenda's on the internet. A sharp edge on either the rim or the tools is more than likely to blame. Using more force than a tire edge can handle would do it. The tire is to slide over the edge of the rim, and will not stretch to make it go on. The bead of the tire has wire in it to prevent it from stretching over the rim. It has to slide on.
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Post by heruk on Feb 6, 2015 15:20:11 GMT -6
I probably would not buy a kenda either but are you sure it was the fault of the tire as far as the stripped bead? I have no idea of how you are working with your tire installs, are you using tire tools designed for bikes? There are people who love kendas and seem to have no problems with them. 2 in a row seems a little weird. If they all had bad beads I would expect to hear all kinds of crying about kenda's on the internet. A sharp edge on either the rim or the tools is more than likely to blame. Using more force than a tire edge can handle would do it. The tire is to slide over the edge of the rim, and will not stretch to make it go on. The bead of the tire has wire in it to prevent it from stretching over the rim. It has to slide on. I have motorcycle tire irons 8" Tire Irons
Ive put tires on before just not on a scooter, and never had these problems. in fact i used to use 2 flat heads and a towel |
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Post by heruk on Feb 10, 2015 13:12:45 GMT -6
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Post by jct842 on Feb 10, 2015 15:19:42 GMT -6
In the picture of the tire with the irons they look like what you would use on a car/truck tire. The recent pictures of just the irons don't show anything to compare sizes with. The motorcycle irons I use are much smaller and thinner. That could be what damaged your beads on the kendas. Mine are 11 inches long x .2 inch thick and the tips are about .1 thick. And made for cycles.
Some rims have some extra room in the center where you set one side of the tire bead while working the other side with the tire irons. My riva has the worst rims I have ever encountered with almost no extra room in the middle of the rim and is almost straight and flat across the inside.
A tire that's been out in the hot sun for a few hours is usually super easy to mount. This time of year in arkansas that is not going to happen. Some claim windex is the slipperiest tire lube going, I am going to try it next tire. I use dawn in water. In any case you slide the tire on..... not shoe horn it on. Beads do not stretch as they have wire reinforcing in them. And if they did stretch they would not shrink back due to the wire.
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Post by heruk on Feb 10, 2015 18:07:12 GMT -6
Thanks man. i cant afford to wait for a 4th tire so Im just going to pay someone to do it for me  |
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Post by heruk on Feb 11, 2015 17:58:03 GMT -6
Finally riding again. Thanks guys,gotta go find an arse to put on the back of this scooter.
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Post by Guitarman on Feb 12, 2015 0:18:31 GMT -6
What's wrong with the one in your avatar?
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Post by heruk on Feb 12, 2015 9:51:08 GMT -6
its only in my avatar. Cool guitar case. It's a case right? I have to put a nut on my guitar today. We need a site suited to a DIY lifestyle. Seems like my whole life is DIY. Thats a good thing Im sure.
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Post by rks on Feb 12, 2015 13:47:52 GMT -6
Finally riding again. Thanks guys,gotta go find an arse to put on the back of this scooter. Hey....you can end this thread like this. Did you get someone else to mount your tire? Did you watch how it was done, so next time you can do it? Did you get a new wheel, or was the original still serviceable? You have to fill us in....."Finally riding again, thanks guys"......now, that just ain't right, we need a few more details |
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Post by heruk on Feb 12, 2015 14:07:56 GMT -6
Haha
I got a perelli as a good will even exchange for the kendas I destroyed. i took em over to the local bike shop where they performed the surgery in their secret dungeon lab. unfortunately i did not see how they did it but the wheel is still serviceable.
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Post by Bashan on Feb 12, 2015 17:23:45 GMT -6
I took the SYM's rear wheel off and dropped it and a new Metzeler tire off at a place called Dirt Bike Supply. Then we went to Nino's Italian Food and had the best Pizza on the planet. It's true, it's better than any pizza any of you can get.  Then we went back to the bike shop and gave the guy $35.00 and the tire was mounted, balanced and he even got the stem dot correct. No hassles, no swearing, no tirades. I'm sorry but for $35.00 I'll have somebody do it for me, JMO.
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Post by heruk on Feb 12, 2015 22:58:03 GMT -6
Man i miss NY pizza. It doesnt taste how it did in the 80's anymore.... But yea they charged me $37. i practically threw the wheel at them. I spent my waiting time in their bike show room. Had some zumas and some ninjas... you know!
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Post by Bashan on Feb 12, 2015 23:48:13 GMT -6
Oh those bikes.....nnnnnnngggahhh!!!!! This Italian food place is run by a New York transplant. He comes out and talks to everybody in the place, well actually he yells. He squeezes your shoulder real hard and says "how ya doin'?!" He tells you he makes everything from scratch and if it's not perfect just tell him. I tell him it's perfect and he squeezes the hell out of my shoulder again. He is a force of nature and so is the food. I'm eating there way too much. I'll need a new tire way too soon if I put on weight. See how I brought that back so it's not thread hijacking?! 
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Post by heruk on Feb 13, 2015 6:42:52 GMT -6
Lol i have no netiquette. its the one place I can swear (sometimes) and be a rebel. As for new yorker's pride in their pizza, I doubt youd want to tell that itallian his pizza is anything less than perfect.  Man Im looking at that ninja z1000 touring. Id eat that for dinner F pizza! |
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Post by cyborg on Feb 13, 2015 13:38:25 GMT -6
A friend of mine has a couple year old one (z1000),,,,an awesome machine to say the least,,,,i've owned a few kawis,,,they are top notch in my book,,,,never had a problem with the brand myself,,,
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Then we went back to the bike shop and gave the guy $35.00 and the tire was mounted, balanced and he even got the stem dot correct. No hassles, no swearing, no tirades. I'm sorry but for $35.00 I'll have somebody do it for me, JMO. 
