smokin tailpipe By twodogsnme (Read 1,280 times)

[twodogsnme]

Ok scooter folks..I got a tao tao lancer 150 that I just passed 1100 mi on..I broke it in easy fer the first 500..changed oil..n gave it a lil more the next 500..took it fer a 168 mi ride today( no faster than 50+) n now I got blue smoke coming out tailpipe..did I kill it? The smoke ain't constantly bellowing but at stop its pretty thick..any help would b greatly appreciated.. Gonna change oil tm..runnin castrol gtx 10-30..thanx in advance n keep the rubber down

[cyborg]

Oil smoke is not a good sign,,,,,you may have broke a ring,,,,

[jjoshua20213]

Sorry bud, you have a ring or more going. The smoke is just a warning sign. Watch your oil consumption closely. Its going to have to be rebuilt in the next month if you ride it alot.


If i'm correct you will feel more air than normal and a little oil coming from your breather tube. As the problem progresses you will noticeably see oil coming from the breather tube. If its plugged into the air filter I would take it out and plug the hole on the box until you fix the problem. the oil will clog air flow and make running conditions worse.

Had it been a high milage engine you would be fine as were and tear is normal, but its not high milage. Something went wrong.

[jct842]

May 9, 2015 21:29:49 GMT -6 twodogsnme said:

Ok scooter folks..I got a tao tao lancer 150 that I just passed 1100 mi on..I broke it in easy fer the first 500..changed oil..n gave it a lil more the next 500..took it fer a 168 mi ride today( no faster than 50+) n now I got blue smoke coming out tailpipe..did I kill it? The smoke ain't constantly bellowing but at stop its pretty thick..any help would b greatly appreciated.. Gonna change oil tm..runnin castrol gtx 10-30..thanx in advance n keep the rubber down

Sounds like you probably caused the problem your self........,...Where does it say you replaced the fish oil the scooter shipped with before starting it..... When you get a new scooter the first thing you need to do is drain out the shipping oil as part of a PDI and replace it with real oil. Piston and cyl are cheap, maybe $50 or so. Isn't the end of the world.

[twodogsnme]

Well folks thanx fer the feedback..I put ring sealer in with the new oil(by the way this is third oil change..first was b4 I even rode it..second at 500 mi n this one at 1100)..so far no more smoke...it also runs just like it did..same rpm level..same giddy up..I really can't tell a difference..will look fer oil in breather tube tho! Will check oil level too. Also a lil more info..I had to come to an abrupt stop from bout 40 mph right b4 I noticed smoke from tail pipe..think mayb the sudden stop forced oil up into manifold n out pipe? ( just hoping/guessin)...will keep postin progress..gonna order new head kit anyway..its under warranty so won't cost much..just some elbow grease n a few scrapes..keep the rubber down n the wind in yer face

[twodogsnme]

No broken rings..seems to b runnin fine now.. Got giddy up n go n same idle I had b4...no oil in breather box..not loosin any either..bn bout 89 mi n still register same on dipstick..gonna re jet n take stock airbox out tm..gonna use a radiator hose n PVC n a generic air filter..hoping to let her breath better.. Will post later..thanx fer the feedback n opinions..keep the rubber down

[clonedrone]

Chop the throttle and she goes lean
I seriously doubt a ring could break on that fresh of a bore, tight piston to wall clearance and tight ring side clearance.
sustained 50 mph then a throttle chop, I would think i scuffed the piston and that will scuff the bore also.
Appears you sealed up something with the Motor Honey. That is telling you something.
Lose the Mechanic in a can.
Wish I had better news for ya bra.

[twodogsnme]

Got 1300+ on it now..oil change due at 1600..will not use motor honey this time..fingers crossed..will update in a couple daze..keep the rubber down y'all

[twodogsnme]

Well tried the reject( got airbox out n radiator hose/filter in)but the silly Chinese cut the heads off the carb bowl bolts!!only way I can figger to fix is drill em out?!!..any suggestions? Thought bout just orderin a new carb..mayb 28mm..any thoughts on that idea? All replays will b appreciated

[jct842]

If you do some reading and maybe a search you will find the subject of those carb screws has come up a half a zillion times along with instructions on replacing them with having to buy a new carb.

[cyborg]

New carb

[clonedrone]

Well sounds like things are going in a better direction.
When I stated you could have scuffed the Piston, This is not easy considering the engine is running in a bath of oil compared to a two stroke.
But more probable than breaking a ring.
Wish you well.

[twodogsnme]

Thanx fer the feedback(sarcastic as it was) on the carb screws..gonna order 26mm carb n intake manifold n b done w/it..Thanx Cyborg..I value yer opinion on these matters..keep the rubber down y'all

[twodogsnme]

U too Clonedrone! Oil change in 100 mi..no motor honey this time..fingers crossed that all is well..will post ltr

[twodogsnme]

Ok folks changed oil..no motor honey this time..no smoke or noticeable decrease in compression or power..think the scooter gods have blessed me..ordered new 26 mm carb n intake manifold..figger this one comes w/correct size main jet..lol..also took breather box out/off n installed stainless air intake tube w/generic air filter..runnin ok but bogs down at lil past half throttle.. Hoping new carb will rectify..it still will do 50 very comfortably.. Very pleased w/Tao Tao brand so far..now to the headlights..will keep posting progress..keep the wind in yer face n the rubber down