stranded, temporarily anyway. By olivertwisted (Read 6,346 times)

[2stroked]

You take care of yourself, and rest up. It wouldn't do you any good to have the scoot running like a top, and not be able to ride!! That's like an extra torture. Trust me I know. I finally got the variator nut in the mail, and now it's pouring the rain like pi$$ pouring from a boot.Humph!

[olivertwisted]

Aw, thank you! I'ma tryin' ! Oh yes, the weather! I'm pretty darned fortunate there (So. Cal). I do hope ya get scootin' along real soon, yourself 2stroked

[2stroked]

Thank much olivertwisted. My wife and I are really missing the scoot!!! The CVT has been out for almost a week and when I get it fixed.....it's raining cats and dogs.Humph.

[olivertwisted]

yesiree, soon.... VROOOM !

[olivertwisted]

Hi folks! I hope you are all doing well!
Well, I'm partially healed from a pissed off lower back, lol! I'm not in as bad shape as I was a few days ago. Since I can at least move around a bit better, I went out today to start the scoot up , the first time after re-adjusting the valves days ago, and she started up as always, but she died as always, too. So, the valve adjust didn't change anything **Sigh** I had adjusted them by lining up the 3 holes on the sprocket only.

So , since the stator/and pickup coil assembly are the only other components in the ignition line, I was reading a bit on the stator and the common failures, ie; shorting across windings due to insulation degradation and/or shorting to the casing by at least one pole. Does it seem plausible that my stator could be passing a voltage test and running fineUNTIL it heats up but then,once it does heat up, starts shorting and hindering full voltage from exiting the stator? Perhaps, heat could be lowering the resistance of already weakened insulation more and more, until it delivers too weak of a voltage to provide a strong spark and at other times, none at all?
Some of you will remember that the rectifier in my scoot was fried , big time, when I got this scoot and I just can't help but wonder if it's possible that the stator could have shorted against the casing and fried it? Maybe it arcs across to the casing or something similar, intermittently?

[Alleyoop]

Well you are correct in that the only things left for spark is the stator and pickup coil. All the other components for spark have been replaced, which would be the normal parts to replace since they are easy to replace and not expensive for a weak and or no spark, the last thing you would hit is the stator and pick up coil which require lots more work.

I would do one more test before you go and invest on a stator and pick up coil. Get a spare spark plug and as SOON as it dies take the boot cap off the plug and stick the spare in and see if it sparks, but do it right away. Do it this way do not want you to get burned the stuff will be HOT.
Alleyoop

[olivertwisted]

Okay, will do, thanks!
I did happen to fins my stator with the pickup attached for $16, just in case I need to go that route.
Does the above scenario sound even remotely possible, considering that fried rectifier that I had ??

[Alleyoop]

Yes it is possible especially if the R/R was fried because that is fed from the stator. I just want to be sure it is a NO SPARK PROBLEM if no spark then order the parts.

When and if you take the FLYWHEEL off watch out for the WOODRUFF KEY that is what holds the FLYWHEEL in position.
Alleyoop

[olivertwisted]

Okay. It's cool enough outside that I can't get it to die quick enough, before my neighbors got agitated, lol! I'll check it tomorrow.
In regards to the woodruff key, I'm to be careful just not to lose it? I'd read up on it first, though.

[Alleyoop]

YES (HAHAHAHA) do not loose it.

[olivertwisted]

Got it Will do the "Switcheroo" on the plug this afternoon.

[olivertwisted]

YUP! Got it to die then, quickly put the brand new plug into the plug wire, grounded against the valve cover bolt and NO spark at all.

[Alleyoop]

WOW!! I honestly have to say I never seen one like this beast Well order the stator and pickup coil now if it still dies and no spark then BURN THE SUCKER

But that teaches all of us something, IF you see your R/R burnt to smithereens then problems could be due to the stator.

[olivertwisted]

HA!!!
Okay, worth a shot here! Believe me, I'm subject to temptation !

A couple of things....
Last night when I was out there in the dark with it running, I realized just HOW badly the lights were flickering so, I video-ed it . Could this be indicative of the stator too? BEWARE of the volume on this vid, it's quite loud!


SECOND thing...
Is there any way to be sure of which stator that my scoot requires (By wire number and color etc) BEFORE I have the flywheel off? As hopefully, I can have it on it's way while I attack the disassembly of the flywheel etc. I'm hoping that my impact wrench will do the trick so that I don't have to buy the puller tool, too.

[Alleyoop]

The lights flickering could be due to the R/R and or the Stator.

There is no way to know which stator is on your scoot we could take a good guess by the wiring and color of the wires but no guarantees and the bad part is usually once you buy an electrical part YOU OWN IT they will not take electrical parts back.

I think we are GUESSING it is a 11 pole stator(which is a rare animal by the way) if I remember right due to the wiring and color of the wires as well as the number of wires.