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Post by sabotendar on Apr 1, 2014 15:16:40 GMT -6
Helo!
I have a carb with the slow jet jammed and clogged on there so no way to get start my scoot, i have a question if i open the injection needle when i pull the throttle and start the engine it should not work and running while I accelerate?
Sorry for the noob question.
Sabotendar.
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Post by Alleyoop on Apr 1, 2014 15:27:44 GMT -6
It may run but it would be at a pretty high idle. Have you tried sticking thin wire down the jet to see if you can get it unclogged? also Carb Cleaner stick the thin straw into the jet hole and spray your arse off.
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Post by sabotendar on Apr 1, 2014 15:58:23 GMT -6
It may run but it would be at a pretty high idle. Have you tried sticking thin wire down the jet to see if you can get it unclogged? also Carb Cleaner stick the thin straw into the jet hole and spray your arse off. Alleyoop I try to put a needle in the jet but she dont reach until the end of jet i'll try to put a product called "car 80" say that dissolves carbon if it is the cause of clogging but i do not have many hope about the carb. |
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Post by sabotendar on Apr 2, 2014 3:42:04 GMT -6
Hey good news i fix the carb i decloggled the slow jet now i have spark and gas on cilinder but the motor dont work i dont have a clue about the problem so i remove the spark and see something strange the sparks are not sequential i adjust the distance between the anodes but not without result dont you can help me? See the video --> Ignition spark |
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Post by jvino on Apr 2, 2014 8:18:53 GMT -6
Pull in the rear brake lever. Also make sure your kick stand doesn't have a kill switch on it also make sure your kick stand isn't screwing up. Something to check at least. I would wait for alleyoop though he has a lot of knowledge on scooters. Good luck though. Wow brazil is it flat or hilly there?
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Post by Alleyoop on Apr 2, 2014 13:58:52 GMT -6
Great to hear you are getting gas from the pilot jet I knew you could do it.
As for the Spark coming and going it could be few things. You will need a MULTI METER to find which part is causing the intermittent spark.
1. First thing is check the BOOT CAP unless it is a new one If Old make sure it is making good contact with the COIL wire. They usually screw on, so turn it CLOCKWISE nice and tight. Also check the COIL wire at the COIL ITSELF. If that is all good then you have some testing to do.
2. You need to find if the stator is sending CONSTANT VAC to the CDI so find the wire from the stator that feeds the CDI. If it is sending constant voltage then the stator appears to be doing its job.
3. Then you need to test the PICK UP COIL to see if it is sending around .05 volts as your cranking the motor. If that is CONSTANT and not breaking up then I would say its your CDI or COIL.
But there are Some good Electrical Gurus on here so they may chime in and have a better idea.
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Post by sabotendar on Apr 2, 2014 14:28:41 GMT -6
My scoot dont have kill switch on its kick stand same with rear brake lever. Here in Brazil is hilly but in some places are flat depends on location in my region for example is hilly  Great to hear you are getting gas from the pilot jet I knew you could do it. As for the Spark coming and going it could be few things. You will need a MULTI METER to find which part is causing the intermittent spark. 1. First thing is check the BOOT CAP unless it is a new one If Old make sure it is making good contact with the COIL wire. They usually screw on, so turn it CLOCKWISE nice and tight. Also check the COIL wire at the COIL ITSELF. If that is all good then you have some testing to do. 2. You need to find if the stator is sending CONSTANT VAC to the CDI so find the wire from the stator that feeds the CDI. If it is sending constant voltage then the stator appears to be doing its job. 3. Then you need to test the PICK UP COIL to see if it is sending around .05 volts as your cranking the motor. If that is CONSTANT and not breaking up then I would say its your CDI or COIL. But there are Some good Electrical Gurus on here so they may chime in and have a better idea. Alleyoop 1. Ok Coil is new and i test before i put on scoot, the boot cap is new too but i dont understand the procedure to fit it on wire out from coil i atach the wire on boot cap and turn clockwise until think he is fixed but i think if turn more a litle he will turn. 2. How to test the stator? the black proof of multimeter (-) on ground and the other ( + ) on wires out from stator? The wire that feeds the CDI is the same from kill switch? 3. I think the Pick up coil have 2 wires if is the case how to test? black proof of multimeter (-) on ground and the other ( + ) on wires out from Pick up? |
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Post by Alleyoop on Apr 2, 2014 14:46:43 GMT -6
The boot cap turn it until it is tight on the wire, it is a screw inside the boot cap just like screwing something into a wall.
The stator you need to find the one that feeds the power to the CDI NOT the kill switch wire.
And yes on the test for pickup coil, the wire going to the CDI is the one that should get around .05 volts from the stator as you crank it.
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Post by Alleyoop on Apr 2, 2014 14:51:22 GMT -6
I asked one of the Electrical guys to jump in, I am not an electrical guru I can get around but not an expert on it.
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Post by sabotendar on Apr 2, 2014 15:00:30 GMT -6
The boot cap turn it until it is tight on the wire, it is a screw inside the boot cap just like screwing something into a wall. The stator you need to find the one that feeds the power to the CDI NOT the kill switch wire. And yes on the test for pickup coil, the wire going to the CDI is the one that should get around .05 volts from the stator as you crank it. Alleyoop Ok i will turn it until is tight and do the tests with the stator. Hey Alley you noticed i make a post to talk about my carb and end we talked about eletrics? And in my other post we are talk about eletrics we are talked about my carb? what madness...  |
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Post by Alleyoop on Apr 2, 2014 15:10:28 GMT -6
HAHAHAHA, yea but your real close now to getting that motor to run  If no fuel no starty if no spark no starty(HAHAHAHA). So one thing at a time now you have gas going into the motor now the spark and then you can RIDE INTO THE SUNSET.  Alleyoop |
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Post by jvino on Apr 2, 2014 15:11:43 GMT -6
Sorry for wrong topic post I saw another post on here answered that way. Glad to see your getting some help.
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Post by Bashan on Apr 2, 2014 15:39:35 GMT -6
Sabo, I'm sorry, I haven't been following and I've been slammed at work today. I will look at your wiring diagram after I ride home from work. I think the problem may be your pickup coil. I would first take both wires off of the pickup. Put your meter to AC voltage. Put a probe in each wire from the stator. Black and red doesn't matter, it's AC. Kill function, if you have one, in the run mode. Key on, crank it and give me the voltage, or you may get nothing. It will be low...like .05v AC. Do that and we can go from there. My feeling is that AC circuit is both legs of a circuit and doesn't ground. I'll look at the diagram though when I get home. Rich
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Post by sabotendar on Apr 2, 2014 18:02:24 GMT -6
Sabo, I'm sorry, I haven't been following and I've been slammed at work today. I will look at your wiring diagram after I ride home from work. I think the problem may be your pickup coil. I would first take both wires off of the pickup. Put your meter to AC voltage. Put a probe in each wire from the stator. Black and red doesn't matter, it's AC. Kill function, if you have one, in the run mode. Key on, crank it and give me the voltage, or you may get nothing. It will be low...like .05v AC. Do that and we can go from there. My feeling is that AC circuit is both legs of a circuit and doesn't ground. I'll look at the diagram though when I get home. Rich Ok i will wait for your reply. |
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Post by Bashan on Apr 2, 2014 22:36:17 GMT -6
Sabo, go to your other thread, I responded there. 
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..BAD TO THE BONE..
If no fuel no starty if no spark no starty(HAHAHAHA). So one thing at a time now you have gas going into the motor now the spark and then you can RIDE INTO THE SUNSET. 
