2008 SHANKED a Shanghi Scooter By lucent (Read 1,147 times)

[lucent]

Hey fellows and aliens, I was excited to ride my scooter to work today but going down the highway it just died on me, Thankfully I was smart enough to bring the tools along in the glove compartment, I began disassembling it on the side of the road then decided it was too hot to do with out a dink so I leaned on the scooter and walked like 3 miles with it to a gas station(well not that far since about half the way was a steady down grade to I coasted for a lot)

I got to the gas station and COMPLETLY disassembled everything to get at the motor, then removed the tank bolts and went to pull the tank off and found it bone dry...... whoops

On another note I was thinking that with all the stuff I did it is running a little strange as if the fuel mix isn't right anymore. I wanted to ask also about the fuel pump it has 2 nozzles on the bottom that do not have hoses connected and were plugged with dirt before and after I cleaned them out it was jumpy when it ran so I taped them over and it was smooth? Is this weird

[mobiker]

Sounds like something I may have done in the distant past, maybe.

[Bashan]

I have to point a couple of things out here:

Jul 8, 2014 13:08:20 GMT -6 lucent said:

Hey fellows and aliens, I was excited to ride my scooter to work today but going down the highway it just died on me, Thankfully I was smart enough to bring the tools along in the glove compartment, I began disassembling it on the side of the road then decided it was too hot to do with out a dink so I leaned on the scooter and walked like 3 miles with it to a gas station.

Yes you do appear to be smart, yet when you needed a "dink" you walked the scooter THREE MILES!

Jul 8, 2014 13:08:20 GMT -6 lucent said:

I got to the gas station and COMPLETLY disassembled everything to get at the motor, then removed the tank bolts and went to pull the tank off and found it bone dry...... whoops

The smart argument is losing some creds, checking the tank before "complete disassembly" is the normal protocol, not the other way around. But your honesty in the face of brutal derision is refreshing.

Jul 8, 2014 13:08:20 GMT -6 lucent said:

On another note I was thinking that with all the stuff I did it is running a little strange as if the fuel mix isn't right anymore.

Your question?

Jul 8, 2014 13:08:20 GMT -6 lucent said:

I wanted to ask also about the fuel pump it has 2 nozzles on the bottom that do not have hoses connected and were plugged with dirt before and after I cleaned them out it was jumpy when it ran so I taped them over and it was smooth? Is this weird

Yes, they were plugged with dirt after you cleaned them.

[Bashan]

My wife says quit being a smart arse. So anytime you run your bike out of gas replace the fuel filter. If it's plugged, even a little, it will affect the mixture. I need a pix of your fuel pump and the hoses you're talking about, it could be several things and fuel pumps are often mislabeled.

[lucent]

Ok thank you for the comic relief it helped a lot,
Edit: I was serious it really did
I will take photos in the morning and post them on here.

The fuel question with the way it was running it's like when I was coming to a stop it would die or get bouncy, vroom vroom feeling loss of power, with what we went through yesterday with the fuel system and that clapper valve on the tank, could this valve although working mostly now be actually broken and needing replaced, I again cleared the lines today in my massive needless disasembly and I noticed on the fuel flows more so when the valve is not fully engaged like when I was sucking on the hose before I would feel the dink inside of the flapper opening fully the gas was spitting into my face with mor gusto than when it was fully open.

And most seriously is the reason I never ever imagined that the tank was empty is because the night before after we got it running again I had filled the tank back up with a gallon and only rode about 13 miles... My gas mileage seems to be extremely bad today it took 4 dollars to get to work about 30 miles thats a lot considering 2 bucks is usually a days worth without an issue, I refilled again after work and the fuel seems to be moving slower than this am but most likely still not very good either, I was scared to ride home before haing a chat on here first.

[Alleyoop]

It maybe your dropping fuel as you ride.
pic of the pump will tell. some pumps have 2-3 outlets and if they are not plugged or connected to the one actually going to your carb you will be loosing fuel.
Alleyoop

[lucent]

Gentlemen, foreigners and extraterrestrials, 
I hope you do not mind I have also linked photos of where my exhaust connects to the body and every bolt I put in here breaks off or just goes bye bye somehow, Do I need to use rubber spacers to absorb the rattle the only thing that doesn't disappear is a tense wire hanger I have on the bottom one





Here's the exhaust



 

[cyborg]

i try to use nyloc nuts on everything on any bike,,,that puts a stop to all that nonsense pronto

[lucent]

like a lock bolt right? so no rubber spacers or anything?

[Alleyoop]

That in your hand is the EVAP canister, all that does is vent the gas tank. That is not your fuel pump or petcock that feeds fuel to the carb. Those two OPEN CONNECTORS on the bottom are fine, one is a vent it draws air in and the other is a DRAIN in case gas from the gas tank fills up the canister is drains out.
Alleyoop

[Bashan]

#1 concern to me is that is your swing arm upper connection to the engine:

I would not ride a bike like that, it's a good way to get killed. I'm surprised the bike isn't juking back and forth with you when you hit a bump. I strongly suggest you fix that before you ride again. If it's stripped drill it slightly out and put a #8 bolt with an aircraft nut on it and wank it down. Drill it out minimally and put the tightest bolt you can slip through there. All the stress is on that bottom bolt and yeah I know it's the big one, I've taken enough of them off. But look at it and think about the forces on that one bolt without the other one, you won't get back on it. Rich

[lucent]

Jul 9, 2014 22:11:08 GMT -6 Bashan said:

#1 concern to me is that is your swing arm upper connection to the engine:

I would not ride a bike like that, it's a good way to get killed. I'm surprised the bike isn't juking back and forth with you when you hit a bump. I strongly suggest you fix that before you ride again. If it's stripped drill it slightly out and put a #8 bolt with an aircraft nut on it and wank it down. Drill it out minimally and put the tightest bolt you can slip through there. All the stress is on that bottom bolt and yeah I know it's the big one, I've taken enough of them off. But look at it and think about the forces on that one bolt without the other one, you won't get back on it. Rich

Awe man I had a piece if qire holding the bottom and if fell outside when I replaced the top. Back to home depot

[lucent]

Jul 9, 2014 21:28:46 GMT -6 Alleyoop said:

That in your hand is the EVAP canister, all that does is vent the gas tank. That is not your fuel pump or petcock that feeds fuel to the carb. Those two OPEN CONNECTORS on the bottom are fine, one is a vent it draws air in and the other is a DRAIN in case gas from the gas tank fills up the canister is drains out.
Alleyoop

Cool Beans then I'm sure there pump is fine then whereever if might be

[cyborg]

Rich shouldn't there be a bushing in there?,,,And Lucent,, Rich is correct on this swingarm bolt missing,,,it's a very dangerous condtion,,,,

[Bashan]

It's a static application so there's no bushings in the swingarm. The swingarm is held rigidly against the engine case and the whole swing assembly pivots on the engine mounting bolt through the case ears. Two big shoulder bolts go through the swingarm and screw into threads tapped into the case. What I was telling Mr. Cavalier About Death is that if the threads in the case are stripped, which is not uncommon, you can use a shoulder bolt and put a nut on behind the bolt.