Difficult starting engine on Chinese 150cc and NOW: gas leak By fototaker (Read 1,860 times)

[fototaker]

thanks again Alleyoop - got it all done and NO gas leak. yaaay jumped scooter and started right up. yaaaay disconnected jump cables and won't start. booooooo  tried again after cables were connected 20+ mins and still will not crank on its own. so let me ask this:

I tried several times again after cables were connected 20+ mins and with scooter engine running, and it still will not crank on its own. so let me ask this:



a. Once scooter is started via jumper cables, can battery be charges after I drive around like a car?



b. Can I leave scooter with jumper cables connected to a car over night and will this charge the battery? Will this KILL the car battery it's connected to?

1. If so, should I have the ignition ON? Or ignition OFF?



Considering I was planning to take a long drive to charge the battery on its own, now am scared that once cranked via jumper cables, I ride somewhere and get stuck because once I turned off engine, the battery won't start the engine again.

any suggestions will be appreciated. i have only had this problem of leaving keys in ignition twice. once battery was charger thru a battery charger, it was okay.

    thanks!!

[Alleyoop]

To charge the battery you do not have to have the KEY ON. KEY ON only feeds other things on the scoot like the Solenoid to use the electric start.

Riding the scooter for say 30 minutes at a good clip should charge your battery IF your charging system is good AND the battery is good. Right now you do not know if the BATTERY is good or bad.

DO YOU HAVE A MULTI METER? if so test the battery and see what it registers just sitting there. Then jump it and start it and put the multi meter on the battery and REV IT UP if your system is charging it should register 13+VOLTS on the multi meter.
Alleyoop

[fototaker]

ok, will let sit for a spell. thanks no, no multi-meter. have one in Spain but no idea how to use it save for checking AA batteries thanks again

[Alleyoop]

Well the one in Spain is not going to help you, but if your going to own and ride a scooter or motorcycle I recommend you get TWO things 1 a multi meter and a 12v light tester and they are cheap the mulit meter at harbor freight you can get one for like 6 dollars and the 12v light tester for about 2 bucks. The multi meters come with instructions on how to use them for testing different things and if not sure i can put of videos on how to us them.
Alleyoop

www.harborfreight.com/catalogsearch/result?q=multi+meter

www.harborfreight.com/circuit-tester-30779.html

[fototaker]

hahahaa thank you

[Guitarman]

Go down to your local WalMart and get a cheap meter, And a battery charger/tender, AND a new battery.
The battery charger should come with a wire set you attach to the battery and leave it there so you can just plug in when you get home.

Also, check and make sure the carb didn't juggle loose from the intake. I know you said it fired right up on the jumpers but still...

[fototaker]

ok, you guys have convinvced me to pick up a charger. remember i am also in Spain and found this online. do you think this would suffice for my use in charging a scooter battery. i have NO idea how many amps a scooter 12v battery has. but i've ordered this already, and as it's dual voltage i can take it to Spain with me!! yaaay

www.amazon.com/Tenergy-Smart-Universal-Charger-Battery/dp/B001AVUAVC/ref=sr_1_28?ie=UTF8&qid=1439168091&sr=8-28&keywords=12v+battery+charger

thanks again everyone for your input

NOTE: I forgot to mention what happened when i recharged (or tried) the scooter battery thru jumper cables with a car. sitting four hours when i disconnected the cables it tried weakly to crank but did not. i didn't try any more because i didn't want to kill the battery completely. so, NOW it doesn't leak but i continue with the battery problem. i am sure the battery is good thence getting a charger so i don't need to inconvenience anyone. thanks again    

[trashtruck12172]

not sure about spain but big chain auto parts stores ( autozone, advance auto ) should be able to check the battery for free. if the battery was depleted and then left to sit for a long time there is a good chance the battery is now junk.

[fototaker]

thanks trashtruck12172 it just sat for 3 days. am seriously thinking once started i just need to drive it around so that it'll charge decently. will TRY to NOT leave key in ignition when i walk off

[fototaker]

Hola again!! Thanks to everyone who assisted me in getting my scooter running again. At long end charging/jumping off the car did/din't work. Would start right off while cables were attached; once removed it wouldn't start at all. Not enough charge on the battery to crank. Even sitting overnight charging did not help at all. I ended up buying the Tenergy Smart Universal Charger for NiMH / NiCd Battery pack 7.2V - 12V with charging current Selection/Temperature Sensor at Amazon. It arrived within 3 days and read instructions, which were quite simple. It is really made for radio-controlled models' batteries, but hey.... I hholed it up and was happy to see the red charging light display right away. I figured I check on it again after an hour, BUT actually returned to look at it while charging red still about 15mins later. The red light was still lit. I tried cranking the scoot and of course it started right away. At the moment the engine started, the red light changed to green indicating fully charged and all within 15mins!! I've been riding the scoot almost everyday since, riding to about 20mins in distance. Not one problem starting but now I really need to figure out where the spark plug is so I can change that. This bike hasn't had any serious maintenance done in the three years I've had it. No shops will look at it, and charge HUGE fees for doing nothing!! Thanks again everyone!!

[Alleyoop]

Ok you have a 157QMJ motor in it JUST like the motor in my TRIKE that you see in MY SIG:)
So here is where the SPARK PLUG IS, THAT IS MY TRIKE PICTURE :
Alleyoop