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Post by mike932 on Oct 23, 2015 18:52:20 GMT -6
Did your scooter come with a manual? It might specify gear oil type and quantity.
There are 2 gear oil bolts. One for draining. One for filling. If you can't find the quantity of gear oil, just fill the fill hole until it doesn't accept more without leaking it back out. Most fill holes are located exactly at the top of where the oil should be full.
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Post by mike932 on Oct 23, 2015 19:01:45 GMT -6
This may or may not be the manual for your scooter. It is a Tao Tao 150cc manual that recommends 15w40 motor oil. If it is the correct manual, then your gear oil is SAE 85/90..... click here for manual |
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Post by Alleyoop on Oct 23, 2015 19:01:33 GMT -6
Most here is where the fill and drain plugs are: Also they only take 6-8oz's of gear oil 80w90 weight is peach keen, Valvoline or any brand gear oil will do. Alleyoop  |
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Post by mike932 on Oct 23, 2015 19:07:34 GMT -6
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Post by mike932 on Oct 23, 2015 19:15:27 GMT -6
If the manual I showed you is the right manual, your scooter requires 0.03 gallons of gear oil, which is 113 ml. Most kitchen measuring cups have ml on the side.
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Post by mike932 on Oct 23, 2015 19:19:34 GMT -6
Here's another version of Alleyoop's photo.....  |
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Post by mike932 on Oct 23, 2015 19:26:46 GMT -6
And here is another tip. Remove the fill bolt BEFORE you remove the drain bolt. Why? Because if you drain the gear oil and then realize that the fill bolt is impossible to remove, you are screwed because you will have a scooter with no gear oil and no way to fill it.
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Post by rosiemoto on Oct 23, 2015 23:12:00 GMT -6
Thank you all, great advice and tips, I'm gonna wake up early tomorrow and get everything needed for the gear oil and do it ASAP. I've got a longer than usual trip tomorrow on the scooter so I'm really worried going so far might be pushing it with such old gear oil. Especially because I accidentally leaked a small puddle of it out a couple weeks ago (I was doing the CVT and got the wrong bolt...). Story time!: My scooter has really put up with me... When I bought my bike, the shop confused me and I thought I was supposed to bring it back for its first oil change after 1500 miles. Yes... I'm talking about the break-in first oil change that you do at like 100 miles... I went at 1800.  I only recently found out how horrible I've been to my bike in so many ways without knowing it. But one thing I think I did good was during break-in, I never accelerated more than 20-30% throttle, did side roads, and kept rpm at 4k and went a little under speed limit... so I was very gentle to it for a long time. My riding style has changed since I started watching MotoVloggers and hearing about how going slow is a safety hazard etc... so no more of that, but I'm sure on my next bike I'll baby it too, but this time without accidentally torturing it at the same time... ugh... my poor scooter. But, it still runs great somehow! So it's time to fix it all up like it deserves.  |
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Post by mike932 on Oct 24, 2015 6:52:56 GMT -6
Yes you did abuse your scooter, but at least it is a very cheap scooter. By the time you buy your next scooter, you will be a much better mechanic.
Buy a new spark plug too. Go to an auto parts store and ask for a A7RTC spark plug. You need only one. If they give you choice of brands, ask for NGK brand. Also buy a spark plug socket for your socket wrench. Spark plug sockets have padding inside of them to prevent breaking the ceramic top of spark plugs.
You actually own the exact scooter that I was considering getting in the future. I even wanted an orange one because orange is very visible to motorists. The fact that yours is doing well despite lack of maintenance makes me want it even more.
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Post by Alleyoop on Oct 24, 2015 10:58:51 GMT -6
And here is another tip. Remove the fill bolt BEFORE you remove the drain bolt. Why? Because if you drain the gear oil and then realize that the fill bolt is impossible to remove, you are screwed because you will have a scooter with no gear oil and no way to fill it. Not to worry, Here is a another Trick of the Trade you can put under your hat you can fill the tranny using the VENT TUBE.  Alleyoop |
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Post by mike932 on Oct 24, 2015 11:18:52 GMT -6
Once again, alleyoop proves that there is no problem he cannot solve |
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Post by Alleyoop on Oct 24, 2015 11:36:29 GMT -6
It is just the experience I have is all. I have worked on so many motors and trannies and rear ends have built my own hotrods and raced every Weekend. Rebuilt so many carbs this scooter stuff with simple carbs and electrical and parts and 1 little cylinder is pretty easy stuff for me.
They all work the same really just with different parts and the scoots have simpler parts but they basically do the same thing the cars do to start, run, move, stop and light it up.
Alleyoop
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Post by mike932 on Oct 24, 2015 11:59:58 GMT -6
when I bought my used scooter, it came with free tech support called alleyoop!
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Post by Alleyoop on Oct 24, 2015 12:10:43 GMT -6
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Post by rosiemoto on Oct 25, 2015 10:37:04 GMT -6
Well I got the gear oil in and just on time before the trip, success! So it's all filled up with new oil everywhere. Turns out I had a lot in there still, and it was dark like coffee. I was looking at the gear oil sticker on the bike and it says GL-3 only but the one I got was GL-4 and GL-5 (Valvoline 80w90)... hope that's okay? A quick online search said it's fine, so I put it in. I've got enough left probably for another 10-20,000 miles. static.pepboys.com/images/productImages/1743100/VV831%20VAL%20HP%20GEAR%20OIL%2080W90%20QT-Front.jpgmike932, I took your advice about doing the filler bolt first. I would have been freaking out if I didn't because it was on there PRETTY TIGHT. I thought I broke something when it came loose with the muscle I was putting into it because it made a pop sound, but everything seems fine. I can see where someone once upon a time broke the edge of my CVT cover right at that bolt. One more reason I'm done going to these shady local shops around here. You actually own the exact scooter that I was considering getting in the future. I even wanted an orange one because orange is very visible to motorists. The fact that yours is doing well despite lack of maintenance makes me want it even more. I think every time it's left me stranded on the road was always related to the CDI. My most recent breakdown was just the CDI connection came loose. First breakdown was the CDI too. Okay gonna answer a few of your questions from earlier: Mine isn't the TaoTao150, not really sure what it is exactly lol, but looking in various places on the bike it has these keywords: Chongquing, Bashan, 2008, Peace Sports, VIP, 150cc. I don't have the manual, and not sure where or how to find the manual online... I've tried but no luck. |
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I only recently found out how horrible I've been to my bike in so many ways without knowing it. But one thing I think I did good was during break-in, I never accelerated more than 20-30% throttle, did side roads, and kept rpm at 4k and went a little under speed limit... so I was very gentle to it for a long time. My riding style has changed since I started watching MotoVloggers and hearing about how going slow is a safety hazard etc... so no more of that, but I'm sure on my next bike I'll baby it too, but this time without accidentally torturing it at the same time... ugh... my poor scooter. But, it still runs great somehow! So it's time to fix it all up like it deserves. 
