Who is the Sunny brand? By grocerygetter (Read 48,249 times)

[grocerygetter]

BTW - I have a great following here at work.
Everyone getting a big kick out of this.
Two other guys hanging on the sidelines waiting to jump in after they see how I make out.

Told them I'll sign them up here so they can start investigating.
They can be my kin; Moe-Ped, and Stu-Ped

[kz1000st]

It would be fun to start seeing flocks of Chinese Helixes on the road. Even more fun to start hearing long trip and high mileage stories coming from their ranks.

[cookees]

As the Honda dealers are taught to say when someone points out that a couple of the Honda scooters are made in China.... "Yes, but to Japanese quality standards".

[grocerygetter]

Apr 27, 2011 5:52:40 GMT -6 kz1000st said:

It would appear that other people besides CF Moto make copies of the Helix. Witness this.

www.peaceus.com/TPGS813250CC244.html

I would be curious to hear who made the one you get. Whether it's an old Qlink on clearance or a bootleg CF Moto or a reproduction by somebody else and, if so, how it performs.

OK - for those who are still following this "experience" and may have been curious about this Fashion/Helix style - this model on the PSM (or is it POS) website www.powersportsmax.com/product_info.php/cPath/38_95/products_id/14986
is made by Taizhou Chuanl Motorcycle Manufacturing Co.
It's a 2009 LB250T-4 ---- not the model that PSM refers to it as. I guess this is normal.

No radio, no alarm. Space under seat is nice. Couple that with extra trunk, you could do overnighters with plenty of space for underwear.

Don't waste your money on their covers - 2 of them came in a 9"x6"x7" box. Haven't taken them out yet, but expecting them to be as thin and delicate as my wife's lingerie. As a matter of fact, she's had deliveries from Victoria's Secret that came in bigger boxes.

Here's the specs from the owners manual VS website:

MANUAL
SIZE - 2265mm L x 745mm W x 1350mm H (divide by 25.4 for US)

ENGINE - 244ml (CORRECTION THANKS TO KZ: this is in fact 244cc's)

HP - 13.5 ( - I hope that's wrong)

MAX SPD - 55mph (? Again ) (I thought 250's went faster than that)

GAS TANK - 6L (divide by approx 3.8 for US)(I hope this is wrong - 1.6gals is a little small for a 250cc)(as I read in the manual Refueling instructions, it then states that the tank is 8L, not 6 L as it stated up front on the specs page)

TIRES - Front = 4.0 x 12"; Rear = 120/90 x 12" (officially, they are 10"x110/90 rear; 12"x4.0 front on 2.5 rim; hongdou brand)(manual & website are wrong)

BRAKES - Front = drum; Rear = disc (maybe because they write backwards, they get their info backwards too? )(rear is foot operated)

DRY WEIGHT - 154kg (= 341lb; right on with the shipping COO)

BATTERY - 7AH (sitting in the trunk is a 7A-BS; I hope the 'BS' doesn't stand for what I think it does...)


WEBSITE

ENGINE - "FEISTY" 250cc

HP - 16.6

MAX SPD - 70+mph

GAS TANK - 3.4G (I hope I got this one)

TIRES - Front & rear = 13" x 130/60 (I did see this when ordering and questioned to myself since the Fashion is 10 and 12 I believe)(see above for real size as seen by my eyes)

BRAKES - Front = disc; Rear = disc(another wrong)

DRY WEIGHT - N/A

BATTERY - 9AH(wrong again - see above for real)



Overall, the Manual is comical to read - KILL SWITCH = FLAME OUT switch.
I went to Engrish.com to brush up on my chinglish to make sure I completely understand the 'alternative' meanings in the owners manual.
www.engrish.com/category/signs/

[grocerygetter]

dash - MPH is large, KPH is small - perfect

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[grocerygetter]

trunk under seat is nice

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[kz1000st]

It might sound picky but ml and cc are the same thing. One thousand of them both equal a liter. Ml. is usually used to designate liquids. 244 ml. = 244 cc the size of a Honda CN 250 engine found in the Helix.

[grocerygetter]

May 7, 2011 12:06:47 GMT -6 kz1000st said:

It might sound picky but ml and cc are the same thing. One thousand of them both equal a liter. Ml. is usually used to designate liquids. 244 ml. = 244 cc the size of a Honda CN 250 engine found in the Helix.

You know I had to look that up, because centi and milli are not the same measure.
Centi = 100, Milli = 1000

But you are in fact correct due to the fact that they are sort of cross measurements of volume. Liquid volume compared to cubic volume - oddly these 2 unit become the same in this matter. I did not know this.

At any rate, who refers to engine sizes in milliliters? I've never heard of it like that before.

Thanks - Good to know

[Cruiser]

Car engines are usually designated in liters. A Mustang 5.0 is 5.0 liters, a BMW 3.0 is 3 liters, etc. CC's seem to used for engines smaller than one liter like our scoots and many motorcycles and some small car engines.

[grocerygetter]

May 7, 2011 18:15:13 GMT -6 Cruiser said:

Car engines are usually designated in liters. A Mustang 5.0 is 5.0 liters, a BMW 3.0 is 3 liters, etc. CC's seem to used for engines smaller than one liter like our scoots and many motorcycles and some small car engines.

Right - Liters - not Milliliters.
Milliliters is odd because it is techincally a smaller unit of measurement.

Imagine a Mustang with a 5.0mL engine - that's just not right.

I've been driving snowmobiles since 1970 - no metric back then. I clearly remember we had a 250cc single. As you said, small engines have always been cc's.
mL is odd for displacement - normally associated with liquid, not volume, as KZ mentioned.

Like medicine - measurement for syringes have always been metric - what would the Inch unit be at this small level?

[kz1000st]

Imagine a Mustang with a 5.0mL engine

Actually it would be a 5,000 ML. engine since it's a 5.0 liter engine.
Or to confuse it even further 302 cubic inches.
Suzuki has gone berserk and started to title their Boulevard Cruiser line by the Cubic Inch value of the bike's engine.

www.suzukicycles.com/Product%20Lines/Cycles/Products/Boulevard%20M50/2009/M50.aspx?category=cruiser#Specs

As you see an M50 is 805cc or for this discussion an 805 ml. engine.

By that standard my Milano is an M9