C.F.Moto Oil By 89newbie (Read 1,464 times)

[89newbie]

I read C.F. specs 15w40SF oil and now im reading the stuff about Boron. What does CFMoto know we don't? First my understanding of oil is its a heavier oil than we use and second I thought SF was gone for good. Back to Boron, why not just use one of the additives from the auto supply stores that CLAIMS to seal the pores of the metal makes the rings fantastic and gives extended life to the valves.

[Bashan]

I have a CF Moto Fashion and a Pegasus and they both have the same oil chart:

I do agree their chart is a little hinky but that's CF. I grab the 15W if I can find it but I usually end up putting in my usual 10W-30 or 40. I don't think there's enough difference there to think CF has figured something out that others haven't. Maybe Cookees could shed a little light on this. I must plead ignorance on your reference to Boron (the company or element?) and was wondering if you could clue me in. Rich

[kz1000st]

Earthman has the whole world thinking his Magic Boric acid mix will add life, horsepower and miles of torque to your engine by adding a teaspoon or so of Boric acid to your engine. Frankly I think he's been into the moonshine again and simply switching to synthetic will accomplish more for those who might believe it.

[89newbie]

Rich im sorry should have mentioned that I read that article by earthman. As far as the viscosity of the oil I looked and looked for the second oil while at wworld didt see it read more on the net and what I read led me to believe the 15w40 speced by C.F. has been discontinued. I use regular 15w-40 in my older high mileage truck and thought that might be a little thick.

[Bashan]

Oh yeah, the boric acid thing. My understanding of this is that boric acid will dramatically reduce friction in oil if it is reduced to the nano-molecular size. This is not easy to do and adding simple boric acid to your oil will not have this effect. Oddly, adding simple boric acid does seem to temporarily reduce friction to some degree but the molecules are so large that they settle out in a short time and will get caught in an oil filter. On a GY6 they won't get caught in the screen and will keep merrily bunping around in macro form doing unknown things to your engine, or maybe nothing. This is what I remember from a while back and I didn't take the time to Google it this morning. Even if you do Google it you're going to get a bunch of nabobs that will say it's the easy way to get 100 MPG or 100K miles/oil change. As nefarious as the oil companies can be, don't you think they'd be doing this if it worked? There are already boron additives in oil and fuels but they don't just dump them in. Rich

[Bashan]

Nov 12, 2011 7:21:45 GMT -6 89newbie said:

What I read led me to believe the 15w40 speced by C.F. has been discontinued.

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Come to think of it, I did look all over for that the first time I changed oil on the Peg. You know how it is with a new machine, try to get the right thing. I couldn't find it anywhere and grabbed my usual standby. Rich

[drjeff]

I got a gallon jug of Castrol 15w40 at the local O'Reileys just a couple of months ago.

[89newbie]

Nov 13, 2011 9:56:25 GMT -6 drjeff said:

I got a gallon jug of Castrol 15w40 at the local O'Reileys just a couple of months ago.

I can find 15w40 but it is not SF.

[cookees]

Here's what we use in all vehicles we prep: 10W-40

www.maximausa.com/shopping/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1&products_id=6

[89newbie]

Nov 13, 2011 18:26:40 GMT -6 cookees said:

Here's what we use in all vehicles we prep: 10W-40

www.maximausa.com/shopping/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1&products_id=6

Thanks for that input sir.