Post by Bashan on Aug 5, 2014 20:47:28 GMT -6
Boy Alley's got that right, this is new territory for you Jwest. These things are made in the heart of China, why do you think they're so cheap? There is no regulation over there and they can do about what they want. If they have parts on the shelf that are different and they want to get rid of them they slap them on. They may be a bigger bore or a bigger ported head. Do not expect truth in advertising, accurate manuals or wiring diagrams, or even accurate badges on the outside of your bike. Some are better than others but caveat emptor. This is not Chevy or Ford, they play by different rules, or none. It helps to go through a guy like Rapid Jim that has a conscience and will correct any problems that may arise. Although Ice Bear does seem to be a good make. Mega Motor Madness has had a good rep so far and are one of our no ad sponsors so let us know on them.
Lots of debate on the engine codes and the P head. For a while it was thought the P head was higher performance. Personally I don't think so. Some think the P in the code means horizontal but why isn't it there everytime? Of course this is China. Others say the Q means GY6 which means horizontal and air cooled. I really don't know. I do know I bought two supposedly identical Bashans and they both have 1P57QMJ engines. One is a screamer and always has been. I transplanted it into a Puma and now it is freaky deeky fast. The other 1P57QMJ has struggled to keep up with twin brother. If somebody had told me that P meant power and I rode freaky I'd say yeah it's true. But having rode anemic brother P I'd have to say no consistency. And believe me, I tried every carb exhaust uni mod you could think of and it would not get consistently fast. I thought it was but damn Chinometers! That is until I changed the head with a BBK kit. So you don't know what's going on in there because a web site tells you. Look at Rapid Jim (eeek!) he's honest enough to tell you he hasn't been inside a 50cc yet so he doesn't know. Another thing about forums, you get one guy that took his bike apart and says "oh, I found this, they must ALL be like this!". That is inductive reasoning and it is a very shaky way to support a premise. This bird I found is black, therefore all birds are black. My P engine is 80cc, therefore all P engines are 80cc.....nah. Rich
Lots of debate on the engine codes and the P head. For a while it was thought the P head was higher performance. Personally I don't think so. Some think the P in the code means horizontal but why isn't it there everytime? Of course this is China. Others say the Q means GY6 which means horizontal and air cooled. I really don't know. I do know I bought two supposedly identical Bashans and they both have 1P57QMJ engines. One is a screamer and always has been. I transplanted it into a Puma and now it is freaky deeky fast. The other 1P57QMJ has struggled to keep up with twin brother. If somebody had told me that P meant power and I rode freaky I'd say yeah it's true. But having rode anemic brother P I'd have to say no consistency. And believe me, I tried every carb exhaust uni mod you could think of and it would not get consistently fast. I thought it was but damn Chinometers! That is until I changed the head with a BBK kit. So you don't know what's going on in there because a web site tells you. Look at Rapid Jim (eeek!) he's honest enough to tell you he hasn't been inside a 50cc yet so he doesn't know. Another thing about forums, you get one guy that took his bike apart and says "oh, I found this, they must ALL be like this!". That is inductive reasoning and it is a very shaky way to support a premise. This bird I found is black, therefore all birds are black. My P engine is 80cc, therefore all P engines are 80cc.....nah. Rich
..BAD TO THE BONE..
