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by: chtmatthew - Mar 3, 2015 17:19:31 GMT -6
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Post by chtmatthew on Mar 3, 2015 17:19:31 GMT -6
When your turning the VARIATOR COUNTER CLOCKWISE is the belt moving with the turning. So are you saying TURNING IT COUNTER CLOCKWISE it gets hard then EASYIER TO TURN? If so the HARDER PART is on the COMPRESSION STROKE and ONCE you turn it past that point it get easyer to turn. Now where WAS the the oil in the CVT COVER when you took it off BY THE VARIATOR or at the BACK by the CLUTCH PULLEY. So if you have oil in the CVT cover that means the belt is slipping you probably blew out the OIL SEAL behind the VARIATOR. So check if oil is behind the Variator which would mean when you took the CVT cover off the oil was probably from the front by the variator all the way to the back of the variator cover. Yes. The belt is moving, lemme check the other stuff you said. |
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by: chtmatthew - Mar 3, 2015 17:05:03 GMT -6
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Post by chtmatthew on Mar 3, 2015 17:05:03 GMT -6
Please check the oil level in the engine,,, just for funzies Its hard to go counter clockwise then easy again. so on. |
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by: chtmatthew - Mar 3, 2015 16:58:27 GMT -6
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Post by chtmatthew on Mar 3, 2015 16:58:27 GMT -6
I need you to Grab the VARIATOR FAN PULLY and turn it COUNTERCLOCKWISE NEVER TURN IT CLOCKWISE(do not want to explain why YOU SHOULD NOT TURN IT CLOCKWISE which you already did at this time). When you turn it COUNTER CLOCKWISE at one point it should be a little harder to turn THAT WOULD BE on the compression stroke and once past that little harder it should turn easier then again harder when it is again on the compression stroke. When DOING THIS is the belt moving along as well as the REAR CLUCTH PULLEY TURNING at the same time. WHAT I MEANT ABOUT THE OIL IS NOT IN THE MOTOR BUT INSIDE THE CVT COVER YOU TOOK OFF TO CHECK THE BELT. ANY OIL THERE? Also just for CHUCKLES like CY asked check the OIL LEVEL which is on the other side by the muffler. There is oil by the muffler. And yes there was some oil in the cover I took off. I'll check the variator right now. Get back to you in 30 min. |
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by: chtmatthew - Mar 3, 2015 12:15:20 GMT -6
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Post by chtmatthew on Mar 3, 2015 12:15:20 GMT -6
When you took the cover off was there any oil in the cover? Do this turn the Variator by hand COUNTER CLOCKWISE and see if it will turn the rear wheel as you turn it or it is very hard to turn and you can hardly turn it. Alleyoop ALSO one more question when you said you where driving at speed and it started to slow down WAS THE MOTOR slowing down OR JUST the speed and the motor was still up with the RPMS? It slowed down along with the motor.. it got lower and lower and shut off. I turned it clockwise and it was easy to turn. I haven't turned it counter clockwise yet though. And yes there was a good amount of oil in the cap when I took it off. |
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by: chtmatthew - Mar 3, 2015 11:51:16 GMT -6
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Post by chtmatthew on Mar 3, 2015 11:51:16 GMT -6
The only way you'll know what happened to the drive is to pull the cover and get a look at what's going on inside Belt looks fine to me.. how about you guys? i.imgur.com/PI2RUhe.jpg |
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by: chtmatthew - Mar 3, 2015 10:21:46 GMT -6
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Post by chtmatthew on Mar 3, 2015 10:21:46 GMT -6
there are several things that can cause that, belt broke, oil in the cvt will cause the belt to just slip, bad clutch not grabbing the bell to turn the wheel, gears stripped in the tranny but you would normally hear some kind of grinding going on. Ok, I'll check it out in a couple hours and update you all. |
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by: chtmatthew - Mar 2, 2015 17:52:59 GMT -6
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Post by chtmatthew on Mar 2, 2015 17:52:59 GMT -6
Could be a number of things wrong with the drive,,,, the belt being one of them,,, clutch could have gone away too,,, no way to tell till you get the cover off and get a peek inside,,, but the belt is the most likely suspect I would think Can this help pin point the problem? How it happened.. I was driving full speed (40-45 mph) and it started getting slower and slower.. or maybe it just stopped going but was still rolling from the speed. I will check the belt tomorrow though. |
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by: chtmatthew - Mar 2, 2015 16:16:46 GMT -6
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Post by chtmatthew on Mar 2, 2015 16:16:46 GMT -6
Could be a number of things wrong with the drive,,,, the belt being one of them,,, clutch could have gone away too,,, no way to tell till you get the cover off and get a peek inside,,, but the belt is the most likely suspect I would think Ok thanks. I'll open it up and check tomorrow. I'll update you guys. thanks again for all the help. |
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by: chtmatthew - Mar 2, 2015 15:16:42 GMT -6
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Post by chtmatthew on Mar 2, 2015 15:16:42 GMT -6
Turns out the scooter didnt move at all after I got it started. Does this indicate the belt ripped? If so, let me know. I left it at a friend's house and got a ride home. I'll pick it up later with a van and start workin. |
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by: chtmatthew - Mar 2, 2015 14:55:07 GMT -6
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Post by chtmatthew on Mar 2, 2015 14:55:07 GMT -6
FANTASTIC!! Good job, Ride Safe Alleyoop I'm in the middle of somewhere right now. It starts but sounds weird and doesnt run good. |
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by: chtmatthew - Feb 3, 2015 14:33:53 GMT -6
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Post by chtmatthew on Feb 3, 2015 14:33:53 GMT -6
Apparently it did from just that statement, I have seen guys do that back in the old days..  Got a new battery! $25.. works so good! Love it! Also.. Friday at around 11pm, with the old battery.. it wouldnt start at the gas station after I got gas. Walked it home, charged it and all good, just got new battery today and runs so good. Starts first try. |
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by: chtmatthew - Jan 29, 2015 15:54:50 GMT -6
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Post by chtmatthew on Jan 29, 2015 15:54:50 GMT -6
Indeed it did... I was very suprised it worked. |
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by: chtmatthew - Jan 29, 2015 11:13:08 GMT -6
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Post by chtmatthew on Jan 29, 2015 11:13:08 GMT -6
Take it to a gas station they usually have air available, or if you have a air compressor. I took a rope and wrapped it around the middle of the tire and tightend it so it touches the rim, and slowly pumped it. |
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by: chtmatthew - Jan 28, 2015 12:49:51 GMT -6
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Post by chtmatthew on Jan 28, 2015 12:49:51 GMT -6
No not a problem but are you sure the problem is the battery? It may be the Regulator/Rectifier on your scoot is NOT charging the battery when your riding it. Do you have a VOLT METER? You can pick one up at Harbor Freight for around 6.00 bucks. Then start your motor and test the battery using the volt meter, at idle is should read 12.5-12.7, then rev it up on the center stand and it should read 13+ volts. If it doesn't then the R/R is not charging. Alleyoop I have another scooter I use for parts, and I want to take the tires from it, but the back tire is flat, any way to pump it? As these do not have innertubes... |
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by: chtmatthew - Jan 27, 2015 16:34:32 GMT -6
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Post by chtmatthew on Jan 27, 2015 16:34:32 GMT -6
No not a problem but are you sure the problem is the battery? It may be the Regulator/Rectifier on your scoot is NOT charging the battery when your riding it. Do you have a VOLT METER? You can pick one up at Harbor Freight for around 6.00 bucks. Then start your motor and test the battery using the volt meter, at idle is should read 12.5-12.7, then rev it up on the center stand and it should read 13+ volts. If it doesn't then the R/R is not charging. Alleyoop Yep. It's the battery. It makes sense.. considering it's an old power wheels battery.. |
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