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Post by Moat on Apr 22, 2013 5:59:38 GMT -6
We hot rodders have a saying A LITTLE LOOSE VALVE IS A HAPPY VALVE. Correction - "A tappy valve is a happy valve"
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Post by Moat on Apr 20, 2013 17:52:52 GMT -6
The mixture screw is for idle mixture, not the overall operating mixture - so will have little effect at large throttle openings.
Install a clean plug, remove the air filter element, and then see how it runs and what the plug then looks like afterwards. Since it now appears so rich after sitting out in the rain, there might be enough residual moisture in the filter element to be starving the engine of air at WOT.
Otherwise, moisture-related spark leakage from the plug wire, cap or coil could be causing misfire at large throttle openings. You could try drying/cleaning those parts off with a cloth, and spraying with silicone spray to help insulate against the leakage (silicone is an insulating dielectric).
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Post by Moat on Apr 20, 2013 4:56:18 GMT -6
Are you sure it is tapping noise If it were the valves that were loose you would hear them more when COLD not hot after they expanded. That's simply not true. Although exhaust valves increase in length some when hot, the expansion of other engine parts (like the aluminum of the cylinder head, for example) in combination with the thinner, hot oil virtually always make tappet noise more apparent when an engine is hot - not cold. And don't overlook that the exhaust valve's head will also expand, radially - forcing the valve slightly towards the combustion chamber as it rides up the tapered valve seat, and increasing valve clearance at the rocker tip a corresponding amount. Not to mention that the intake valve stem is under constant cooling by the passing fuel/air charge. Exhaust leaks can sound an awful lot like a loose, ticking tappet as well - but I'd guess the noise has a high probability of either being normal (if not too loud?) or caused by something you did/did not do during the recent valve adjustment (like maybe not tighten the adjuster's nut enough, or just setting lash a bit too loose?). My $.02
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Post by Moat on Sept 5, 2012 2:06:05 GMT -6
No, no - sorry if my question was confusing... I was only trying to determine if the "blow" noise you mention was a mechanical problem (broken engine part) or an ignition/carb/fuel/air problem (misfire). It sounds like it's more the latter (ignition/carb/fuel/air).
That said - it is possible that a cam that is way, way out of time can allow burning combustion gasses into either the exhaust pipe (cam opening the exhaust valve too early) or out through the carburetor (cam opening/closing the intake valve too early/late), causing an audible "pop" or misfiring sound. Bent and leaking valves, from a badly mis-timed cam, can do the same also.
Does the scooter run OK otherwise, once it's warmed up?
I think it would probably be best to first double-check cam timing and make sure compression is good... and then go on to ignition/carb/fuel/air from there, if need be.
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Post by Moat on Sept 4, 2012 17:24:14 GMT -6
I'm not sure just what the "light blow" noise would be, but as to the cam timing - no one yet mentioned the reason the marks don't align perfectly, and how to approach that issue.
It's common and normal for the cam chain to "stretch", increasing in length as it wears during normal service. This lengthening of the chain's overall length - given the location of the tensioner and it's taking up this slack on the backside (top) of the chain's run - results in the cam following the crankshaft later and later (retarded) as miles go by, and the chain wears itself longer in length.
So if there is a question as to which tooth on either side of TDC to set a sprocket that falls somewhere in between... the safe, proper method is to set the cam to lag behind the crankshaft (retarded timing), as this is the way it wears - and is designed to wear - normally, in service.
Of course, this is all assuming that the cam chain hasn't worn beyond it's service spec length, and is still useable.
Is the knocking "blow" noise a sharp, metallic noise? Or more of a cold misfire/backfire?
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Post by Moat on Sept 4, 2012 0:49:39 GMT -6
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Post by Moat on Sept 3, 2012 17:59:49 GMT -6
I think I got this right. Scooter body parts are carbon fiber type. The color is part of the part, not painted on. Umm... no. The gloss panels are almost assuredly painted ABS, and the satin-finished, softer black plastic (like floorboards, rear fender, airbox, etc.) are most likely either polyethylene or polypropylene - both of which are very difficult to adhere paint to compared to ABS. You'd be hard pressed to find carbon fiber bodywork on a $20,000 Ducati - let alone a cheap Chinese scoot! Why is it forums seem full of people who drop in, answering questions that nobody asked, about things they so obviously no so little-to-nothing about?? For people seeking reliable, accurate information, such posts only add confusion - and sometimes are downright dangerous. If you're not sure about an answer - it's better to just not reply at all... I honestly just don't get it. tawas - have you tried contacting Taotao USA about where to find new bodywork? It might not be too expensive - www.taotao.us/index.cfm/contact-us/Or maybe contact any one of the reputable Taotao online dealers who sell parts for the bikes they sell? I'd have to think they could get you the right bodywork without too much trouble... Bob
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Post by Moat on Sept 3, 2012 16:20:06 GMT -6
Yup, Hunter, agreed - a broken connection inside the (cheap Chinese) battery was going to be my next suggestion... but the fact that the starter appears to work fine leads me to think the problem is outside of the battery. We'll see...
BUT - a meter set to Ohms across the battery terminals will indeed peg the needle - and likely smoke the meter!! Should be set to Voltage only, when reading across the + and - terminals!
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Post by Moat on Sept 3, 2012 12:45:42 GMT -6
Most likely, you have a bad ground connection somewhere, that was pulled or jarred loose when the bike fell over. The entire electrical system - including all of the lights and the ignition system - all functions by completing an electrical path to ground (negative), which is all tied back to the battery's negative terminal. If that heavy wire from the negative terminal is either loose/dirty at the battery or anywhere it leads to the scoot's frame and engine, and also where that same battery ground goes into the wiring harness - it could cause the exact problems you describe. A bad connection like that is like a kink or knot in a garden hose - the sprinkler will be weak, and if you put a second sprinkler on (like turn on the turn signals or high beam) - both sprinklers will get really weak (engine struggles, turn signals don't blink, etc). So - carefully look over all ground wiring (black or green, I think), starting at the battery posts (are they both tight?) - look for loose ground wire lugs where they bolt to the frame and engine, any loose connectors, or loose pins inside the connectors, etc. Look especially close at the heavy ground wire that bolts to the engine (somewhere) - both end's lugs should be bolted tight, not bolted to a plastic cover (like the cooling shroud), corrosion-free and clean, the lugs tightly crimped to the wire, etc. Check the same stuff from the battery's positive red) side, too. Tight post, connectors, fuse, wiring, etc... Bob
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By the way, great new avatar Cookees. Rich [/b][/quote] +1! Lol... too cute 'n funny!
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Post by Moat on Sept 2, 2012 14:33:35 GMT -6
Also when my key is turned in the ignition so the moped has power, the signals blink fine but the front headlight doesn't working unless I do the passing switch for the high beams. The low beams or high beams won't work on a constant setting. Except if I hold the rear break on. If I hold the rear break in then the headlight works. Now if I turn the engine on the same thing happens, except the turn signals turn into a solid instead of blinks to indicate a turn. What happend to the wiring? OK - wiring/bad ground connection/loose connectors could be the issue with poor running, as well. Something might have pulled loose when the bike was dropped. Start at making sure the battery posts' screws are tight. Then look at all ground cables that connect to the frame or engine. Then just go around checking that all harness connector blocks are seated snugly, fuse(s) are healthy and making a good connection, etc... (especially ignition wiring - CDI module, coil, pickup coil wiring connections). Look closely at the R/H hand kill switch and - especially, if your scoot has one - the sidestand kill switch and wiring. You might want to bypass those in order to check, if you get that far. Bob
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Post by Moat on Sept 2, 2012 14:25:25 GMT -6
curiousgeorge - don't worry about playing around with the idle mixture screw. The idle mixture setting has nothing to do with the bike's current problem - which you describe as idling fine, but bogs on accepting any throttle. The scooter falling over wouldn't suddenly change the idle mixture screw's setting.
As the first few posters have mentioned, it's probably a flooded EVAP charcoal canister (or related plumbing/valving) - try fully clamping off all of the hoses leading to/from the canister, and remove the gas cap... then see how it runs.
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Post by Moat on Aug 23, 2012 5:18:41 GMT -6
Counter steering is a result of the gyroscopic effects from the spin of the wheel. Rich - gyroscopic precession is only a smaller part of countersteering... especially on small-wheeled scooters, where the wheel's gyroscopic forces are so low (compared to a motorcycle). The main action of countersteering is simply that the bike is turned "out from under itself", and it falls over (flops) into the lean that's required to balance throughout the curved track of a corner. Simple!
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Post by Moat on Aug 23, 2012 5:03:43 GMT -6
If you already ride a bicycle, dirtbike or minibike - you are already using countersteering... whether you realize it or not. At it's core, countersteering is really simple. Ride along, barely touching the handlebars - you will notice if you push forward with your right hand (the same as turning the handlebars to the left), the bike will fall to the right - and you will turn right. Simple! If you want to learn more about how and why it works that way, read here - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CountersteeringPay no attention to justbuggin's dangerous advice. Leaning with your body to initiate a turn takes much more time than simply pushing/pulling on the handlebars (let alone leaning the wrong way - to the outside of the turn, as justbuggin suggests... ). In an emergency, swerving as quickly as possible to avoid something can save your life. I'd recommend you practice swift maneuvering/swerving in an empty parking lot... as well as emergency braking, using the front brake to it's maximum. Good luck, and have fun! Bob
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