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Post by abdulmuhsee on Mar 16, 2011 15:43:09 GMT -6
Maybe I should have, but I figured that I'd be unable to do anything about it if it wasn't the fuses or battery.
But what I can do is get some advice as to how much effort such a repair should take. They could always call and say, "Yeah, your XYZ is busted and it'll take 8 hrs of labor minimum to fix" since I'm an ignoramus and will accept whatever technical babble they give me.
What would be the acceptable price limit they can quote me without knowing they're just trying to get a fortune out of me for something simple? Or, if they do say the starter or solenoid is fried, is that something difficult to fix?
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Post by abdulmuhsee on Mar 16, 2011 15:16:41 GMT -6
Alright, so I found the 20 AMP fuse on the thick red wire above the muffler and took it out with some pliers - as I couldn't get it with my fingers due to the rubber covering around most of it. It didn't look blown, but I put a new fuse in there. Still nothing.
So finally, I took the battery somewhere to be tested, and the load bearing test indicated it had plenty of juice. Therefore, since the battery is fine, the 15 AMP fuse is fine, and the 20 AMP fuse is fine, I suppose something else must have blown, which I'm guessing could be a needle in a haystack, so I just had the shop pick it up to find out what it is (it needs a new rear tire anyways since the original one is almost thread-bare after putting almost 6000 miles on the thing).
By some hair-brained coincidence, the guy I originally bought the scooter from with only 100 miles on it last February showed up at my door only an hour after the shop towed it away and wanted to buy it back! It seems that as soon as the sun comes out, people get the desire to scoot.
He said he had a heck of a time finding me, but finally had a friend of his - a retired policeman or something - do a license/address search, which admittedly is a bit unnerving and weird. I told him I'd let him know after it gets fixed, though I doubt I'd sell it. It has quite a few dings on the fiberglass body from all the riding I did last season, but was running (last time I rode it anyways) way better than when I got it from him.
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Post by abdulmuhsee on Mar 15, 2011 20:32:26 GMT -6
Well, you told me way back on page 1 of this sub-forum that it's the Yamaha/Linhai clone, so I'll go with that :-). Yes, I mean the blue 15 AMP fuse that is located by the battery. I don't know of any other fuses, but here's a repost of the engine pic. How do I check the fuse on the solenoid relay? Do you think the problem is a fuse getting blown from the crossed battery connections?
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Post by abdulmuhsee on Mar 15, 2011 20:07:46 GMT -6
Just as an update, I put the battery on the trickle charger. When I connected the two cables, the "connected" light came on, so it recognized the battery I guess.
After being on there for a few hours, I watched the charge go up from nothing to 25%, to 50%, and after just now reaching 75% I turned the key to the "on" position and nothing at all. No panel lights, no electronic fuel pump, nothing at all.
Could the trickle charger be wrong and it's just the battery that's fried, or does this mean something else got fried and there's a big problem?
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Post by abdulmuhsee on Mar 15, 2011 16:33:04 GMT -6
Alright, I have a 2008, 250cc Roketa which looks identical to pictures of other Roketas I've seen on the forum (and by extension most Chinese scooters), but anyways, it's been sitting in the garage all winter and it's now getting warm enough to drive!
I hooked up the battery to the car and got the scooter started and running, but after I removed the jumper cables, it eventually died and the lights started dimming. No big deal, I just didn't charge it enough.
However, I did something stupid: I accidentally re-attached the positive cable to the negative side of the car battery and negative to positive, and after I put the cables on the scooter battery, it sparked and I removed them. When I turned the key to the "on" position, nothing at all now.
I re-attached the cables to the car battery correctly this time and tried to charge again, but still nothing. I went to the store and got new fuses and put a new fuse in there, but still nothing. Did I fry the whole electrical system of the scooter or what?
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Post by abdulmuhsee on Jun 1, 2010 18:00:06 GMT -6
Alright, trying to change the oil and that bolt will NOT BUDGE. I even tried hammering the wrench handle down to get it to loosen a bit but it will not budge no matter what I do!
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Post by abdulmuhsee on May 26, 2010 13:52:21 GMT -6
There is a sticker on the side of my Roketa 250cc that says "change oil after first 300 miles and every 1000 miles thereafter." However, in the owner's manual, it says "change oil after first 1000 kilometers (roughly 650 miles) and every 3000 kilometers thereafter (almost 2000 miles).
I changed the oil initially at 650 miles; now my mileage is at 1670, so should I change the oil now or should I wait until when the manual said?
Also, a tutorial on how to change the oil would be appreciated, since $33 seems steep as I watched the guy before, and it seems to just involve twisting a knob and then putting new oil in.
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Post by abdulmuhsee on May 10, 2010 23:32:28 GMT -6
Even I'm starting to think it's electrical now, and the seafoam may have been a coincidence. I drove my brother home and back on the scooter with no problems; no conditions changed since it happened last other than it sitting in the garage without its shell for a few days.
Even though it SOUNDS like a fuel problem, it's very possible that something electronic that's supposed to be sending a signal somewhere is intermittently cutting out because it's hot/something and not telling the bike to do something it should. I'm not even sure why it has to have such a myriad of electrical wires everywhere bunched in rubber and electrical tape, because heat = electricity's enemy, and it seems like the antithesis of mechanical engine function.
There's no way I can possibly know which part is the culprit without replacing every single part in question, which I cannot do, probably not even one part, so every time I ride it, I'll just be taking a huge risk. My gut feeling at this point is that the electronic fuel pump is getting hot and not pumping effectively when said problem happens, and I'd really like to re-install the vacuum pumps if I was able to do it; I don't trust electrical things to pump gas into my scooter.
The only thing I was able to do was change where the ground wire was positioned so the thin metal disc under the screw is now behind the computer thing instead of in front of it, though I doubt that was the problem.
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Post by abdulmuhsee on May 8, 2010 23:39:55 GMT -6
I don't want to start an argument but with the limited mechanical knowledge that abdulmuhsee appears to have he may cause more problems that he cures. EXACTLY; without a picture showing exactly where the part is and an explanation of what I need to do, the only thing I'll accomplish is taking the bike further apart with no guarantee that it goes back together. Is the "coil" an easy fix that someone like me can do? I'm more than willing to try anything within my abilities and I'm getting short on time to fix this without having to attempt walking to where I need to go.
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Post by abdulmuhsee on May 8, 2010 13:50:20 GMT -6
pull the plug and send us a picture the electrode and tell us where you're getting your gas. Rich I get my gas at different places every time, but it has happened after filling up at more than one gas station. As for everything else you said, I have no idea what it was. Even I just wrote it off as bad gas the first couple times it happened and hoped for the best Where is it? How do I make sure it is clean? What filter; where? How do I remove it and install a new one? Again, that's a completely foreign language to me. I'm sorry if I'm an idiot, but I know nothing about cars or motorcycles.
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Post by abdulmuhsee on May 7, 2010 14:10:54 GMT -6
Alright, to the person who posted the pic with the arrow to what I need to check, that helps ALOT. Now, do I take that off and blast it with water to clean it up or what?
And yes, the seafoam made the problem go away for 4 days, during those 4 days of which I added seafoam every time with a fillup; the time I didn't add seafoam is when it started up again.
I REALLY wish I knew exactly what I need to check, how to do it, and where to find it because I'm borrowing someone's car until I get this thing fixed!
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Post by abdulmuhsee on May 6, 2010 7:32:42 GMT -6
Well, the best way to describe the sound is a can of pop opening (or soda for jr); the sound lasts for approximately one second and begins like the can has just opened and the carbonation/pressure is being released for the rest of the second. If the problem is flooding, I do still have the vacuum pump module the original owner took off if the electronic fuel pumps are to blame, though this problem didn't appear right away, and those electronic pumps have been on it for as long as I've owned the scooter.
I still really need to have reposted pictures with MSPaint arrows pointing to what I need to look at, since the term 'ground wire' and 'mounting bolt' could denote any or every single wire, screw, and nut on the entire bike in my mind.
One thing I might be able to do by myself is clean the air filter since there's a sticker on the bike that says to wash it by hand every 1000 miles; I'm at 1,200 now. Also there's a sticker that says to change the oil after the first 300 miles and every 1000 thereafter, but the MANUAL said to change it after the first 650 miles and every 3000 thereafter, so I did change it after 650 miles, but I'm not sure which one is correct.
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Post by abdulmuhsee on May 5, 2010 21:18:19 GMT -6
Remember how I said I need reposted pics with arrows and explanations since I'm a dunce? I have no idea what a ground wire leading to a mounting bolt is or what to do with it.
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Post by abdulmuhsee on May 5, 2010 15:50:02 GMT -6
The valves were JUST adjusted less than 500 miles ago, which fixed the problem of it dying when stopping; this is an issue that's unrelated.
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Post by abdulmuhsee on May 5, 2010 12:44:05 GMT -6
Here's the second pic.
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