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Post by nightsong on Aug 24, 2014 20:22:36 GMT -6
So I've been in the market for a Honda Reflex clone for a while now, but recently have decided to go with a real used Reflex instead. I'm going to look at a Reflex tomorrow (hopefully), but it is the model without ABS. ABS is often touted as one of the benefits the Reflex has over the clone. Since this one doesn't have ABS, can it be added with the necessary parts, or would it not be worth the trouble? The price isn't much more than a clone shipped to my house, so I'm starting to feel like the better quality would be worth it just for that. But should I hold out for an ABS model? Any thoughts?
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Post by Bashan on Aug 24, 2014 21:54:56 GMT -6
I knew a bunch of Harley engineers before they closed the R&D in Tallagega, Al. They all HATED ABS. They said it was loss of control and didn't help stopping one bit. I asked them about stopping in rain and they just rolled their eyes. They said, "it's raining, don't go that fast". Good point. I don't think it makes enough difference to be a deal breaker, go for the non IMO.
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Post by richardv on Aug 24, 2014 22:02:19 GMT -6
ABS is good will it works correctly but when it fails your a goner. I have experienced complete failure in my truck. Nothing like watching the tail end of a BIG truck coming at you at 40mph with your brake pedal on the floor. Slow down when the road conditions dictate.
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Post by nightsong on Aug 24, 2014 22:09:14 GMT -6
Thanks for the advice. In the little bit of reading I've done in the last few hours, it sounds like the brakes are great on the non-ABS version, and the benefit of having them isn't a deal breaker as stated above.
What do you all think about $2,200 for a 2005 Reflex non-ABS, 2,500 miles, minor cosmetic damages? I personally think $2,000 is a more fair price, but wanted a second opinion.
Thanks all!
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Post by Guitarman on Aug 24, 2014 23:09:46 GMT -6
There was a study done a few years ago on a 'new' brake system. It stopped the vehicle in less time and distance than normal. Here is the Patent for it. I saw a demonstration of it a few years ago. Very impressive. It makes ABS look silly. Emergency Brake Technologies Inc.
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Post by Bashan on Aug 25, 2014 8:19:29 GMT -6
I'd say $2,000.00 is real close:
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Post by cyborg on Aug 25, 2014 11:26:06 GMT -6
When i ordered my 2002 bmw r1150r i ordered it without abs,,,i'd rather make the call on how my brakes work thank you very much
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Post by nightsong on Aug 25, 2014 21:46:38 GMT -6
Well I am now the proud new owner of a new-to-me Honda Reflex. We met in the middle at $2100 and I'm happy with that. The scooter is in good condition and I plan on cleaning up the paint where some light scratches are. I was dead set on buying a clone for over a year now and changed my mind just yesterday. I'm glad I went with the Honda. A clone would have cost me about $2000 shipped with TTL so for $100 more I got the real thing. Not knocking Chinese scooters as I used to own a 150cc and enjoyed it, but I have more peace of mind with the Honda reliability.
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Post by novaraptor on Aug 26, 2014 15:58:47 GMT -6
Congrats on the purchase. I think you will have a great time with the real thing..
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