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Post by richardv on Apr 5, 2016 4:55:20 GMT -6
Great to hear. Now go have some fun.
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Post by rosiemoto on Apr 5, 2016 9:31:36 GMT -6
Yay! I wish you had an action cam and mic setup on your helmet so we can see your first reactions when you go to ride it on the road. And you don't even have your endorsement yet??? Totally surprised me considering you basically rebuilt the whole bike. Is this your bike ever bike or just first scooter?
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Post by Alleyoop on Apr 5, 2016 11:17:26 GMT -6
HAHAHAHA, LMAO on that one
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Post by olivertwisted on Apr 5, 2016 13:48:18 GMT -6
Will do richardv ! rosiemoto , I'm glad that you mentioned that. I am looking at getting a bluetooth intercom setup for my helmet and was wondering if there are any decent but affordable helmet cams or, if worthy ones are generally , pricey ? I must say that, in the driveway, I was really "Jonesing" to be able to just take flight over the sidewalk and get out onto the street ! I did grin as I heard the Counteract beads packets disperse in the tires. It's a shame to be going that slow, without a choice, lol! I had my endorsement MANY years ago as, I used to own a motorcycle. I had no worry that I can get one since I've obtained one before. But what I should have anticipated and planned for is the long wait time for appointments at the DMV in Cali, for sure ! I'm quite glad that you enjoyed that, Alleyoop !
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Post by olivertwisted on Apr 5, 2016 13:58:37 GMT -6
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Post by rosiemoto on Apr 5, 2016 15:29:07 GMT -6
lol I was thinking the camera so we can get all your excitement.. I didn't know it wasn't running good, now I feel bad for saying that, aww sorry! I was wondering why Alleyoop was laughing so hard... but I see how that would be entertaining too!
I personally use SJCAM SJ4000, it's about $70 and does great for me after a couple workarounds. Such as I use a power bank to power it for hoursss (internal battery lasts 90 mins, not enough for "dash cam" purposes), and I use an external sound recorder for my in helmet mic to record voice. Just gotta sync up the voice to the video in a video editor. I don't know whether to recommend this camera vs anything else that's out there now, but I just know it works great for me after figuring out its quirks.
Here's a video of mine that shows what it can do. I had 2 different camera setups at different points of the video (top and chin positions), and also shows both day and night time.
I know nothing about the bluetooth setups though, never tried one myself, but I see them used a lot during group rides. Not sure how they get all the sound from it into their video...
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Post by olivertwisted on Apr 5, 2016 16:13:02 GMT -6
OH! It IS running well, rosiemoto ! So far, anyway. Without being able to go out to really road test it Ok, yes, I saw a review on the SJ10 this morning and someone suggested looking at the SJ4000. I do already have a 10,000 mah power bank so, I'm set there! Thanks, for the input. I have always thought that your setup was doing a good job. You've got yourself all dialed in there! In your vid, you were surprised that someone had a full faced helmet. I just got mine and it is full face. In California, there's traffic everywhere and crazy aggressive drivers so, can't be too careful here My "Storm-Trooper" gear, lol! About those peeps staring, that's what I'd do, smile or wave. I was thinking I'd learn a joke per day to tell peeps that I spend time with in traffic I Hope I follow through on that !
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Post by rosiemoto on Apr 5, 2016 16:47:09 GMT -6
Oh what I was saying about the rider with the helmet was kind of a joke, but kind of not a joke, because almost NO Harley/cruiser riders around here wear helmets, I mean like 1 out of 20 might have a helmet on. I have never in 6 years of riding saw a cruiser rider around here wearing a FULL face helmet until that video... only sport bike riders wear them here. So maybe he was from out of town lol. Actually I just saw a couple scooter riders with full face helmets on the other day, which also surprised me, because they usually don't wear helmets either here. In fact, I think almost noone wears helmets here! FL law doesn't require it, and I think that's crazy. A couple days ago I saw a Harley with no helmet on a rainy day going 45mph like it was nothing... yet here I was going OW OW and I'm wearing a RAIN JACKET. I guess if he trains his face on enough rain drops and bugs, he'd get so strong he could survive a crash... is that the idea behind wearing no helmet?? I've got a cheap 10,000mAh power bank, lasts me probably between 15-24 hours total on this camera..you're definitely good to go! OMG your helmet looks like it has a perfect round surface for a chin mount, nice! That's like the most desired position for action cams, and a lot of people can't do it because their helmets have a point in the middle there. I have a camera mount at the chin and another at top of my helmet and tend to switch between them when I get bored, but I always end up back at the chin. Each position has their own advantages/disadvantages though.
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Post by trashtruck12172 on Apr 5, 2016 17:46:13 GMT -6
rosie: not wearing a helmet is a harley thing. what else would you expect from neanderthals riding the worlds largest vibrator?
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Post by olivertwisted on Apr 5, 2016 18:49:07 GMT -6
Ahhhh, ok! I forget that not every state has the helmet law as we do . Lol, ...train your face.... OH! So, I accidentally chose a good chin mountin' helmet, NICE! So, your SJ4000 mounts in either position, then ? Briefly, what would you say are the advantages/disadvantages that you would say I should think of, if you don't mind? You are the first person that I have the opportunity to ask and , considering your experience with it for your blogging , your a great choice!
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Post by rosiemoto on Apr 5, 2016 20:28:47 GMT -6
Sure, I'll give you all I can think of. Everything here is my experience with just my scooter, but I notice it can be different on other bikes, judging from watching others' videos. Hopefully this list isn't too overwhelming... I'm known to go into great detail around here! All positions will probably take a little experimenting to get it how you like it. I personally like the chin mount after enough experimenting.
Camera at top of helmet Advantages: - Has a good "overview" of the road; sees slightly over the cars, like when you're standing on foot pegs. - Decent view of people while walking around off the bike. Sees their faces no problem.
Disadvantages: - Wind hits the camera and blows your head backwards... could get tiring. - Can't clearly see the speedometer etc, bad for recording speed tests if you're tuning your bike. - Camera's built in mic picks up TONS of wind noise at this position, even at only 5mph. Makes it hard to sync voice to the video. - A little disorienting; camera looks like it's floating because there's no part of the bike in the view unless you have it pointed down some, which may give less view of the road up ahead.
Camera at chin: Advantages: - Good point of view of both the bike and the road; looks like how the rider sees. - Wind noise for built in mic reduced, makes it easy to sync voice and video tracks. Still need external mic to be heard clearly over the wind though. - Sees the cars behind you through your mirrors; good for "dash-cam" usage in case someone rear ends you. - Can see inside cars if you need to get a driver's face for any reason. - Picks up your voice and others voices almost equally in a conversation.
Disadvantages: - Makes the helmet a little front-heavy, noticeable at first but you get used to it. - May not see faces in a off-bike conversation unless you have it pointed enough upward, and especially if the other person is taller than you. - Can block the bottom part of your view depending how you have it set up, but can be overcome with different positioning with mounts/adapters.
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Post by richardv on Apr 5, 2016 20:59:48 GMT -6
Thanks for another interesting video. With the information about the camera location I'm wondering how it would work on a modular helmet. That is what I prefer. There's vents and the latch on the chin bar and the front swings up over the top. But that's how I get my glasses back on and get ventilation. So I suppose bike mount or chest mount is all that's available.
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Post by olivertwisted on Apr 5, 2016 21:17:23 GMT -6
Thank you for going into it all for me! That's exactly the info that I needed . I wouldn't have asked you to give me all of that but I'm sure glad that ya did! Not overwhelming at all. "...Wind hits the camera and blows your head backwards..." I got quite the humorous cartoon visual of this! Lol! Regarding the mic, while looking around and reading, I couldn't figure out how mic's could actually pick up the user voice while filtering wind noise so, it perplexed me as to why I dont see external mic's and ports for them in more models. Whichever I do choose, it seems that it may be best to choose one that can use an external mic and mount it inside my helmet. That'll be cute, getting two mics into my helmet. One for intercom and one for the camera, lol! I wonder if I'll run into any feedback issues or anything like that. I've got my new homework, it seems ! I thank you again, rosiemoto . I sure appreciate the info!
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Post by olivertwisted on Apr 5, 2016 21:22:39 GMT -6
Mine seems to be just as you described, richardv
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Post by rosiemoto on Apr 5, 2016 22:51:14 GMT -6
richardv, I'm not sure either. There's still the possibility for side mount if the helmet has the surface for it. I quickly looked up modular helmet pictures because I'm not familiar, but I would guess this could work:
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