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Post by olivertwisted on Feb 23, 2016 18:52:10 GMT -6
Okay, I just saw your above post. YES, the solenoid activated the starter when I jumped the contacts.
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Post by Alleyoop on Feb 23, 2016 18:54:42 GMT -6
HUH!! are you saying that the START BUTTON is GROUNDING THE SOLENOID even before you push it?
Well if voltage is getting to the solenoid and it is being grounded THEN THE SOLENOID IS BAD. I wanted you to make sure about the ground so you would not have to spend money on a new SOLENOID. But it appears the SOLENOID is bad (BUMMER).
But at least by jumping it we can work on starting the motor and once started adjusting fuel delivery and what not before the SOLENOID arrives.
Alleyoop
P.S
Since the scoot has been sitting for so long the carbs fuel passages and PILOT JET are most likely clogged with gas residue and that means the CARB will need to be cleaned out and passages and jets cleared.
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Post by olivertwisted on Feb 23, 2016 18:58:35 GMT -6
I'll check again, because I just grounded the red/yellow wire and it DID activate the solenoid so, there must be something wrong in my following directions.
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Post by Alleyoop on Feb 23, 2016 19:00:45 GMT -6
I'll check again, because I just grounded the red/yellow wire and it DID activate the solenoid so, there must be something wrong in my following directions. GREAT!! that means the SOLENOID is good and the problem is by the PUSH START BUTTON and or the wire going to the SOLENOID from the start button to ground the SOLENOID like you did manually. |
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Post by olivertwisted on Feb 23, 2016 19:11:37 GMT -6
As long as I am doing procedure correctly, Ignition off, brake taped, before even pressing the start button, red/yellow probed here by the solenoid...  Red/yellow probed here at the switch...  Here is my reading which matches what I get when I touch the probes to each other...  |
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Post by Alleyoop on Feb 23, 2016 19:18:08 GMT -6
You beat me to it (HAHA. the GREEN and white attached to the start button should be grounded so that when you press the start button it also grounds the solenoid.  |
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Post by Alleyoop on Feb 23, 2016 19:23:34 GMT -6
Here is how to test it: And for shuckles you can take an extra piece of wire hook it up to the Green on the PUSH BUTTON and the other end ground it then push the start button IT SHOULD ACTIVATE the SOLENOID which would mean the GREEN WIRE ona the PUST BUTTON is not grounded or not grounded good. Alleyoop scooterdoc.proboards.com/thread/940/solenoid-starter-diagnostics |
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Post by olivertwisted on Feb 23, 2016 19:30:07 GMT -6
One step ahead...  I just tested the green wire for continuity and it does not ground with the key on OR off, switch depressed or not, it only has continuity to the kill switch. Im gonna try the above for chuckles, right now! |
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Post by Alleyoop on Feb 23, 2016 19:40:03 GMT -6
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Post by olivertwisted on Feb 23, 2016 19:43:09 GMT -6
Actually, no chuckles! I tried grounding that green wire at the back of the switch to the bare spot I made for the rectifier ground . A few times. What da hay ?!  |
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Post by Alleyoop on Feb 23, 2016 19:44:16 GMT -6
BAD SWITCH inside not makeing contact see if you can take it apart and fix it. If not new switch.
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Post by olivertwisted on Feb 23, 2016 19:44:36 GMT -6
this makes the switch itself bad ?
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Post by olivertwisted on Feb 23, 2016 19:45:53 GMT -6
LOL! You've taught this grasshopper well! I posted before I saw your post Will disect it and see whats going on in there. Will report back expediently  |
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Post by Alleyoop on Feb 23, 2016 19:46:56 GMT -6
HAHAHA, you are good and know your stuff.
yes or there is a break in the red/yellow ground wire from the switch to the solenoid.
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Post by olivertwisted on Feb 23, 2016 19:59:26 GMT -6
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..BAD TO THE BONE..
I just tested the green wire for continuity and it does not ground with the key on OR off, switch depressed or not, it only has continuity to the kill switch. Im gonna try the above for chuckles, right now!
