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Post by budthatsmyrealname on Sept 29, 2016 1:47:52 GMT -6
moped was running fine, then i got home and parked, and wouldnt start in the morning like a dead battery.
it would crank once... then twice... and stop. my first thought was a dead batt. so i took my fully charged car batt and did a jump, absolutely same reaction. so i thought, maybe the car batt is dead. i did a jump directly to the moped from a running car (no other batts) and still same thing (also i can hear the car idle drop when i hit the starter button so i know juice is going in)
my second thought, bad relay. i put in a brand new relay. same thing.
what else can cause this?
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Post by cyborg on Sept 29, 2016 7:27:18 GMT -6
Starter motor is going away,,,or terminals are loose ,but my bet is the starter itself
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Post by richardv on Sept 29, 2016 7:55:50 GMT -6
It not a good thing to have the car running. The cars charging system has too much output for the scooters battery to take and it will damage it. It's even dangerous on much larger motorcycles.
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Post by budthatsmyrealname on Sept 29, 2016 10:23:04 GMT -6
i appreciate the advice of the car having too much power. i did it for about 1 minute. you think i caused damage? because after i stopped it still had the same affect so maybe i didnt do damage?
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Post by tvnacman on Sept 29, 2016 14:01:28 GMT -6
I second bad connections, otherwise starter.
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Post by fugaziiv on Sept 29, 2016 14:07:25 GMT -6
Probably won't know until you get it running again. The amperage in a car's charging system tends to fry the regulator first, and then battery. I've seen it cause stators to go bad as well.
Does your bike have the kickstart on it? Does the bike kick over freely? If so at least you aren't hanging up and there is a good possibility it's the starter going bad. It happens.
If the bike doesn't kick over freely, unfortunately it might be time to start taking things apart...
Matt
Edit: or bad connections too... always gotta check those as John and Cyborg mentioned.
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Post by budthatsmyrealname on Sept 29, 2016 15:25:58 GMT -6
Yea the moped kick starts and starts and it runs. But because i have a stroker and a big bore kit, it keeps breaking the teeth off. So i only use kick start when im stranded.
But i researched symtoms of a bad starter and you guys were right. I bought a new high torque starter. So hopefully itll do it
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Post by fugaziiv on Sept 29, 2016 15:36:50 GMT -6
Yea the moped kick starts and starts and it runs. But because i have a stroker and a big bore kit, it keeps breaking the teeth off. So i only use kick start when im stranded. But i researched symtoms of a bad starter and you guys were right. I bought a new high torque starter. So hopefully itll do it That should fix it. As soon as you mention a stroker and BBK, you are immediately in tired starter territory and you need to replace that with a hi-tq unit. I bet that will solve your issue. A stroke and BBK will expose a poor quality starter pretty quickly with some use. Matt
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Post by tvnacman on Sept 30, 2016 8:43:32 GMT -6
What cdi are you using?
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