Is it a Geely or Diamo By stinkyshoeclubhouse (Read 2,244 times)

[stinkyshoeclubhouse]

So I bought this scooter from a guy for $100. He said it was a 1996 Honda Retro that needed a carb cleaning and air filter box to run.

Soooooo, when my 10 year old son and I saw it we felt it would be a good father-son project. I have a trrminal heart condition and am on heavy medications that apparently impaired my judgement on this one.

I don't know exactly what I have or what I will need to get it going.

I looked up the info on the sticker on the frame:
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Model: JL 50QT-21

Frame: LB2TAB21043C18615

GEELY GROUP CO., LTD
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I looked up the number a d it shows this is a 2004 Geely made in China.

I have pictures of the carb and am guessing I can get a 50cc carb for it easy enough. Right?

[stinkyshoeclubhouse]

Here are some pictures of the Gee-amo

[motley]

100 USD for a Geely is not a rip off, just saying. But the company went out of business just about 10 years ago. So most main parts are hard to find, but the mass majority of parts are universal over the internet.

I still have my first scooter which is a 2003 geely fashion 2 stroke.

You might get lucky like I did and end up with a chain driven scooter.

*I would just drive that thing until it's dead. Mine is still alive, sat in the weather for two years, charged the battery and it started first try oddly..

That's odd yours dies not have the signature Geely motor writing on the back seat?

My geely obtained a gas tank leak one day,heard a loud pop like explosion. Check out the gas tank, probably rust filled. Might not be getting correct fuel either.

If it's a 2t, expect the bolts for the carb to vibrate out. Even a mechanic shop couldn't fix it. Just a 2t vibrating issue, also getting to the bolts is an arse..

Lastly if it's a 2t with the oil tank Reservoir, add a cap full to the gas tank.. Never trusted it. I was informed to pump the throttle every so often to help pump oil. As well after climbing hills, and during going down hills.

Your worst scenario is the oil tank never pumped oil. Causing damage. But that should be it.

The control arm wiring sucks on these bikes. Direct solder. Wrongful turn can break the solder joints.

I will reply tomorrow much better, it's beyond my bedtime sorry. Nice find

[stinkyshoeclubhouse]

Thanks Motley!

I found the engine stamp by the back tire.

JL 1PE40QMB

*40316L760*

So I looked that up and found it's a 2 stroke 40mm 50cc minarelli type Chinese engine.

So I'm trying to find a carb, air filter box crankcase gasket and panels...hahahaha..the panels are probably a lost cause but will try.

[czmdiver]

Nice Scoot, looks like a great father son project...

[czmdiver]

Jul 5, 2018 21:36:01 GMT -6 motley said:

100 USD for a Geely is not a rip off, just saying. But the company went out of business just about 10 years ago. So most main parts are hard to find, but the mass majority of parts are universal over the internet.

I still have my first scooter which is a 2003 geely fashion 2 stroke.

You might get lucky like I did and end up with a chain driven scooter.

*I would just drive that thing until it's dead. Mine is still alive, sat in the weather for two years, charged the battery and it started first try oddly..

That's odd yours dies not have the signature Geely motor writing on the back seat?

My geely obtained a gas tank leak one day,heard a loud pop like explosion. Check out the gas tank, probably rust filled. Might not be getting correct fuel either.

If it's a 2t, expect the bolts for the carb to vibrate out. Even a mechanic shop couldn't fix it. Just a 2t vibrating issue, also getting to the bolts is an arse..

Lastly if it's a 2t with the oil tank Reservoir, add a cap full to the gas tank.. Never trusted it. I was informed to pump the throttle every so often to help pump oil. As well after climbing hills, and during going down hills.

Your worst scenario is the oil tank never pumped oil. Causing damage. But that should be it.

The control arm wiring sucks on these bikes. Direct solder. Wrongful turn can break the solder joints.

I will reply tomorrow much better, it's beyond my bedtime sorry. Nice find

Stinky, Warning on this guys advise, be extra careful and diligent on a Scooter board you are getting correct information.

You shouldn't but if you think you need to check the Oil Injection Pump is working you can work its gear by hand once removed with some oil in the line and see it pump's.
Also make sure you use Two Stroke Injector Oil, there are many very good brands.
If you just want to plane Delete the Pump you can mix old school in the 5 gal can. Im sure you would be plenty safe with a good oil at 40:0-1.  there are those Ratio-rite beaker for sale at most bike shops that makes pre-mixing easy 
Do Not Mix your Oil and Gas in the Scoots Tank.
If you do enjoy the Pump Never Never Ever Ever Add More Oil to the Fuel tank, More Is Not Better, One Must understand when you Add More Oil your are Leaning out the Fuel/Air Mixture. You are flirting with a lean condition seizer now.
Ive analyzed many piston failures professionally were the were they Seized there Two Stroke by Adding to much Oil.
As example if my MX bike is Jetted for and running a 50:0-1 pre-mix and then grab a fuel can that is 20:-1 that bike is now Major Lean, Detonating and Running really Hot with More oil..
The Injection Pump is a constant running so "pumping" the throttle does nothing, back in the day going Down a long hill the bike can coast with little or no throttle in high gear she is running lean so the thing to do was to just feather the throttle some, and this was Only done on a Down hill. probably not needed.

Same thing with a Four Stroke there is no reason to ever add oil to the gas, the More oil will Lean Out the Mix, She is now lean,hot and detonating. Now think tho the Four Stroke is running in a bathtub of Oil so she is much more forgiving to adding the extra oil causing a Piston Seizure. In a ll out racer like a dirt tracker she would melt down.
We do some very cool things to Pistons to control the detonation from lifting the top ring off the cylinder.

[stinkyshoeclubhouse]

Thanks guys for the help.

So I found I'm also missing a bolt the holds the carb onto the engine.can I just grab one from the fastenal store that's the same size as the other one I do Have?

[motley]

I can't tell what type of cvt cover you have, But as you can see there is a round plastic cover on the back of this Geely Fashion. The two bolts that hold this toggether is the exact type you need for the Carb. You could temporarily use it for now.

* Of course if it's a true geely it will match up..

Once you take the bolt out take the other to a hardware store like you said. 

Make sure you get the bolts as tight as you can on the carb, or else the carb will practically fall off going down the road... Bad design flaw, but common for these two strokes to cause the problem due to bad vibration.

Also it's advised you DO NOT bypass the oil tank reservoir!!

[czmdiver]

Jul 7, 2018 22:41:24 GMT -6 stinkyshoeclubhouse said:

Thanks guys for the help.

So I found I'm also missing a bolt the holds the carb onto the engine.can I just grab one from the fastenal store that's the same size as the other one I do Have?

This is great project and hope you post lots of pictures of the resurrection.
Im once again going to warn of extreme caution on the advice above, Don't Do What He Do or Say to Do...
If there is any concern in the Carb bolts vibrating loose there are many many way's we can combat that.
Do NOT tighten as tight as you can, because we are deal ing with Aluminum and may need to take that carb off many times first may try simple Teflon Tape to the threads, or we can move on to Loctite ThreadLocker 242 blue, this is removable but would advise caution. We can even use the teflon tape with a dob of Blue, Gray or Black Permatex to the Head and it won't vibrate loose, If that Don't get it we can Safety Wire the darn thing.
There is no design flaw its a Ring Dinger!!
We can Delete a Oil injection in Anything if we Need too. the Reservoir Feeds the Oil Pump, I would strongly advise flushing out the reservoir then installing a inline filter like a fuel filter will do.
I am Moderator on another Scooter Forum and will direct you there by pm, just a bunch of older Scoot heads with tons of experience, and some very factory connected.. I just not going to entertain Butcher Advice.
         Good Luck

[mopedmike]

geely is not out of business I bought a coleman scooter yesterday, made by geely, model jl50t-14

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[miser]

I have a 2020 Trike made by Geely. 

Finding parts has been interesting.