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Post by kr10k50 on Oct 13, 2010 10:47:40 GMT -6
Ordered Air Filter today, will update thread after delivery and installation.
Think I've found the Supertrapp exhaust that will work as well. Have to take some measurements and contact the manufacturer to be sure. I'll post that info as well. Looks to be about $150.00 w/o shipping. Not cheap but there are plenty of performance exhausts out there for more.
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Post by kr10k50 on Oct 13, 2010 17:16:46 GMT -6
SuperTrapp is fast. Already answered my e-mail. They do not make a specific application for the 139QMB.
They do carry a "Universal" line of exhausts that can be fabricated or modified for "almost" any purpose. Won't be cost effective, so I won't be going that way on the exhaust.
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Post by Alleyoop on Oct 13, 2010 20:18:57 GMT -6
Kr10k50, Most Mufflers for ATVs, Scoots etc you have to go with a Universal Version, which are Slips On meaning the Outlet of the Header Pipe Fits Inside the MUfflers INLET then a Clamp holds them together. Then you have to WELD the mounting bracket onto the MUffler to match where it will bolt onto the frame OR put on a STRAP and Bolt the Strap. But they last longer than the scoot will because it is a One Piece Muffler no Rivets or bolts holding the cover on the muffler.
My Ice Bear PST150H Trike came with a 13" long muffler and a 1" OD Header Cheap Pipe. You cannot fit anything longer than 13" long Muffler so I got the 12" Muffler and had a Header Pipe made a little longer than orginal as well as a bigger diameter 1 1/4 OD which is the largest possible on the 150 CY6. With a little Longer Pipe you get a little more Low End Torque as well. Alleyoop
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Post by kr10k50 on Oct 13, 2010 20:39:17 GMT -6
Ok. That lets me understand things a little better and makes more sense. Now I'm probably going to be tempted again. I'm pretty ham handed when it comes to welding fabrication, but I do know of a couple people up to the task. I've also got Enviro here local too, I think I may run this past him as well.
My OEM exhaust is 14" long and I think 22mm OD.
Thanks for the info!
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Post by Alleyoop on Oct 13, 2010 21:20:34 GMT -6
Kr10K50, I believe they do have a 14" long Muffler, I saw it and was going to get it but I measured where it was going to bolt onto and I just don't have the room because the muffler is under the Center Cover and before the Rear Axle. I was going to have it put on the other side and have it come out under the Center Cover which would have looked awesome. Then I looked and saw how bare the right side looked where the muffler is normally. The welder had already made the longer Pipe to come out under the CVT cover and back out the back on the left side. I told him no put it on the right side:) Alleyoop
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Post by kr10k50 on Oct 26, 2010 18:48:52 GMT -6
Got the filter in today! Not too bad time frame for an Import part. Thanks again to JR for the iron man google work.
I scanned that guys site until I found the air filter, some 20 or 30 pages in myself. Had I not known it was in there, I'd given up the search long before that, so yeah. Thanks!
Everything looks good. I hooked the Inlet pipe to the carb with a couple band clamps and a 2 1/2" piece of radiator hose. Pipe fits nicely and comes out right where it needs to be. I can use one of the old airbox bolt holes, and the rear CVT case bolt to mount and secure the disc air filter.
I should have some pics uploaded tomorrow, and an idea of how it's going to run.
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Post by kr10k50 on Nov 5, 2010 10:35:36 GMT -6
Finally found my camera cord to upload. So here's what I've got. Still need to upjet as the Airflow has been greatly increased, and OEM exhaust is Modded as well. Three holes in the exhaust is a not too loud and much more throaty. And YES! you can hear the carb purring on the other side from the new disc filter cannister. Here's "Keets" Before. Stock Box New Intake Pipe Installed/small section of radiator hose & clamps Not Yet Mounted. Just Hanging. Another Angle Mounted/DIY Gas Line & Washers Bushing and 2 1/4" bolt(New) Into existing OEM Airbox mounting hole. Stabilizer Strapping to rear CVT cover bolt. Outside in the sun and ready to run! Gracie Ready to Ride, Like Yesterday!
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Post by Alleyoop on Nov 5, 2010 16:07:59 GMT -6
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Post by kr10k50 on Nov 5, 2010 23:34:07 GMT -6
Yep. That's the one Al. Just came in Bronze instead. Still looks really good . Hope you do give one a try. I'd like to know if the disc's are interchangeable with the SuperTrapp exhaust disc's. This is a performance intake. the pipe that comes with it is larger than the one with the OEM air box. Maybe not as much as a foam filter attached directly to the carb, but it does suck lots of air. When I first took it out, dashed up to 25 like a bat out of, well you know, then of course, fell right on it's face, like you just reached down and turned it off, until I backed out of the throttle. To compensate, I've drilled 3 holes in my OEM exhaust, and turned my A/F adjustment 3 full turns out. I'll need to up jet to an 85 or 88. In the mean time, I got to thinking. On a lark or stroke, one or the other, I came up with a stretch "Skiers" type of winter headband. The Elastic type with sort of flaps on the sides to cover your ears. Twisted it over once on itself and slipped it over the cannister disc's. Presto! Enough flow restriction to make it run like a shot w/o so much as a bobble. My accelerator pump had been giving me a little "miss" at about 15mph. No more! The Mod on the exhaust makes it only marginally louder, but lower and throatier. And YES you can hear the carb resonating through the disc filter. Sounds like there's something definitely going on there Here's what I ended up with. I know, but it works!
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Post by wildman on Nov 6, 2010 8:35:27 GMT -6
kr10k50 Hay, I've been looking at these canisters for a while now... Have you opened the canister up yet to see what it has for a filter element?? Wondering how & where to get element replacement if needed?? Also wondering how they are in the rain?? Because that's where I have my filter located at... I custom built a 43mm Stainless Steel Filter Tube... But, if I get caught in much rain I'm screwed, which has happened a couple of times...
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Post by kr10k50 on Nov 6, 2010 9:43:12 GMT -6
The actual filter element is just the run of the mill paper cone style filter, with a metal cap on the end, but you can easily drop in a Uni-filter or just about anything else that will fit and tighten down with a band clamp. I've done some thinking about riding in the rain with it. I'm already looking for something to make another sleeve. This one will probably be mesh with a non-permeable top or cover. Something that will deflect direct rain, but still let it breath some. It wouldn't take too long to slip under a roof somewhere and remove a couple disc's to open it up further to compensate, if need be. The way the disc's are set up, while the canister is open, it's more like open to four very thin closely spaced baffles, separated only by sets of small lock washers. Also while it may not appear as such in the photos, the intake is also raked down to make sure anything that condenses or does get sucked in there, drains out eventually. At the very least it will be a workable excuse, for not wanting to take him out in the rain. Remember, Keets spends his off hours in the middle of my kitchen floor. This will be his first Indiana winter. He might not like it!
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Post by wildman on Nov 6, 2010 21:34:25 GMT -6
kr10k50 OK, it sounds like you're telling me that the canister comes apart & then you can slip a K&N filter onto the end of the tube then clamp it on w/ hose clamp & then the canister slips over the filter & secured w/ screws to the filter tube end of the canister cap & the air intake cap fastens to the other end??? Am I getting this right??? Now you mentioned a Uni Filter could be used... So now I have to ask, what is the ID dimension of the canister??? It doesn't look like it's that big... I have Uni Filter for a 44mm filter tube & 3" x 3" x 2" cone type K&N filters for 43mm filter tube... I'm just trying to figure this out cause I already have around $150.00 invested in 3 filters & dry chargers + my custom Stainless filter tubes, so I've been leery spending another $50. - $70. each for 3 scoots if they're not going to be any better then the set up I have now... Because the only thing wrong w/ the set up I have right now is the rain soaking the filters... These canisters would dress it up a bit more if I can use my filters w/ the canister...
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Post by kr10k50 on Nov 7, 2010 11:55:03 GMT -6
Thats basically it, although the canister is large enough to get your hand in to get at the filter by taking the disc end apart. I'll take some measurements and more pics, for you, when I tear back into it.
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Post by kr10k50 on Nov 10, 2010 21:18:49 GMT -6
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