CF Moto Jetmax Opinion through first oil change By vintner (Read 4,573 times)

[kz1000st]

Simply put endurance is a skill.

Yeah,in people. Machines are either well built or not. Yes, some bozo could blow up anything that someone else could ride, trouble free, forever but I don't know of any skillful machines.

Definition:
1.[noun] having a wide variety of skills

Yes, a Jetmax can be used on interstates, mountains and State roads. Agreed. The Jetmax is versatile.

[spandi]

Nice writeup on the speedo. (I'm gonna' have to pick one up.)

[vintner]

Thanks spandi.

When you do the install, be sure to have good epoxy type glue. Super glue may not do it since it doesn't have 'fill' characteristics. The magnet is spinning around really fast, and will create a lot of force. You need good holding power for it to stay in place as well as another blob of epoxy to keep the sensor positioned.

Having the magnet closer to the center of the wheel is better than having the magnet further out like on the rim near the tire. For the same tire rotation, the inner position may move 3 inches where the rim position may move 9 inches or more. Note-Numbers are representation only and not based on any mounting or actual measurement but inside positioning moves much less distance and so is a safer place to put the magnet.

To get the tire travel, I put the valve stem at the bottom of the tire. I have a 5 foot ruler that I laid down to measure stem down to stem down distance. I converted that to mm and had my numbers to enter into the bike speedometer.

The head of the unit normally mounts on a bike handlebars. There are 4 tiny screws on the back that when removed will allow the handlebar mount to be removed. I dabbed a couple drops of epoxy on the back (where the screws were removed) and used that to mount on the instrument panel. That is the last step in the installation, you don't want to be gluing this in place before all cables are positioned or you may find you can't route the cable well.

Finally, when the glue is cured, twist the speedometer/computer head into the receiver and you are ready to try it out.

[spandi]

Vintner, thanks ever so much for the instructions. ( nice to get 20/20 hindsight ahead of time) I'm thinking something like PC-7 Mil-spec epoxy should hold it securely. (everything I've glued with it could not have been taken apart by King Kong. LOL!)

[jaksonbrown]

Sept 10, 2012 18:33:56 GMT -6 kz1000st said:

Simply put endurance is a skill.

Yeah,in people. Machines are either well built or not. Yes, some bozo could blow up anything that someone else could ride, trouble free, forever but I don't know of any skillful machines.

Definition:
1.[noun] having a wide variety of skills

Yes, a Jetmax can be used on interstates, mountains and State roads. Agreed. The Jetmax is versatile.

Yeah,in people

Exactly, if the people ( I'll remind you Chinese) don't have the proper skills they don't build a Durable machine.

So if the scooter endures then it was skillfully built and will be durable.

600 mile ride, riding on all forms of terrain and 3 opinions isn't enough to know either way.

Now if they don't show up on Craigslist like you hope for where they are affordable then you'll know someone is still riding it or still making payments.

[kz1000st]

Exactly, if the people ( I'll remind you Chinese) don't have the proper skills they don't build a Durable machine.

I don't understand that one at all. Maybe you don't understand. Skill is a human ( a bipedal Mammal) trait. Maybe you forgot what you said since it's on the last page.

Simply put endurance is a skill.
I said, "Yeah,in people."

Now, unless you forgot, you weren't talking about the skill of the people who built, you were talking about the machine like it was a person. Who built it doesn't enter into the discussion. How it was built does. Is a Ford Focus a Corvette? Don't think so.

Is a Linhai clone a Jetmax? Don't think so. The statement that a Jetmax may not be more reliable than a $1600 250 is silly. I'll base it on previous bikes. A Fashion and E-Charm have the reputations for incredible reliability and quality.

What you're saying is that the new BMW 1600 GTL may not last because nobody has put 100,000 miles on one yet. I don't need to see a high mileage Jetmax to know it will endure, I've seen enough other CF Moto products to know that.

Oh, and this business about being overpriced. Equally ridiculous.
See this?

www.powersportsmax.com/product_info.php/cPath/38_95/products_id/15105

A Linhai with fuel injection and PDI (yeah right).

$2700+ $240 shipping + $240 (tax I'll pay at DMV) sounds like approx (that's approx-OK) sounds like close to $3200 to me. Do you have as good a bike as the one Vintner paid $3500 OTD? Do you have a two year warranty? Do you have someone to REALLY yell at if the fuel injection refuses to work out of the box? Do you have real shocks and forks or oil filled pogo sticks? No.

Do you really think that a Linhai clone Reflex replica with fuel injection will be that much cheaper since your friends at Killer are selling old carbureted versions of the BMS for almost the same price as an MC54? Nope.

So in short the Jetmax is both a better scooter and a bargain for a bike sold by real dealers. No doubt your Linhai is good for short trips to the grocery store or back road trips. But if you want a scooter that will last, travel on Interstates and expand your horizons a Jetmax is worth a look.

Oh,and don't show me this.
www.superiorpowersports.com/260cc_Gas_Scooter_Touring_p/bms260sc-tbx.htm

Their shipping charges are by destination. They might charge another big pile of bucks to send it to me from California and equal the other guys price.

[vintner]

I put 165 miles on my my Jetmax today with a scooter club, and it was a great ride. I got 73 miles per gallon, it ran great and handled the hills, curves and speed just as well as the 400 and 650cc machines on the ride.

On side note-I work for a company that has product built in China by 3 or 4 companies depending on the product needed. The product is built to our companies standards and product is inspected. The products are used anywhere from industrial to consumer electronic or even medical equipment. Properly documented procedures, training and inspection an produce good product. If the scooter companies do not spend the time for documenting, training and inspecting, then the quality isn't there. The Jonway YY250T is dead (to me), long live the Jetmax!