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Post by kz1000st on Dec 28, 2013 13:07:39 GMT -6
The problem is that gas stations don't take enough care of the tanks and equipment the ethanol comes from. I'm the first person to pooh-pooh the ethanol crud myth except I got bit twice. The first time it clogged open my vacuum petcock and float needle on my W650 Kawasaki simultaneously and poured half a tank of gas on my garage floor. Of course it did it after I shut the door and I didn't find out until two days later when I opened up the garage and even the air smelled flammable. It stuck my float needle open on the Big Ruckus once too and only by bouncing the bike a few times did I get it to stop. Now I put Seafoam in my last tank before putting things away to prevent those things from happening.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2013 9:18:40 GMT -6
I have a friend here in Puerto Rico who is the president of a big company and has this $250,000.00 mercedes Benz and he went to put gas in it one day and went to a gas station called PUMA which has gasoline with 10% ethanol. and he did not realize it. Long story short he ended up spending a large sum of money fixing the engine.
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Post by LUKE on Dec 30, 2013 9:42:45 GMT -6
If they drive up to a pump and they see E-20, E-30, E-40, I don't think they know what that means. Even if they do know what it means -- that E-30 means 30 percent ethanol in the gallon they're producing -- if they are selling it at the pump, I think there is the assumption that it's OK, that it's going to work in whatever I put it in.
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Post by jct842 on Dec 30, 2013 13:57:52 GMT -6
Fuel injection seems to be a lot more tolerant to crapahol compared to carbed engines. Infact the smaller the jets in a carb... the more trouble you can expect from it. I think the "brain" controling the ign. and injection can some how compensate for it. And the injection operates at high pressure thereby forcing the sludge thru the orifices where the jets in a carb are fed by only gravity and suction.
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Post by LUKE on Dec 30, 2013 18:00:13 GMT -6
Just a point to ponder: ONLY the non metal parts of the fuel system are affected by the ethanol in gas
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Post by jct842 on Dec 30, 2013 18:45:40 GMT -6
Wrong.....ever see the inside of a pot metal lawn mower carb that had water in it....all corroded to the point the metal has been disintegrated? Alcohol absorbs water from the air. Do you know why they do not sell it for airplanes? Water freezes at altitude is one reason. They also need more octane but that could be put in along with the alcohol if they could find a pilot nuts enough to take off with it in his tanks.
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Post by kz1000st on Dec 30, 2013 19:13:27 GMT -6
Go John! The last time I checked aluminum was highly affected by moisture. There's a reason all the uncoated Japanese motorcycle engines in this world are powder white. And before you get smug about fuel injection, you do know that fuel pumps and injection systems use plastic and rubber right? Maybe it's why all the Morphous ever built are spraying fuel out their fuel pumps, burning and going up in smoke.
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Post by mike6736 on Dec 30, 2013 19:27:28 GMT -6
LOL... Luke Trailer Rider is sliding in his own poop... I think it is not good for any motor or carb, should be out-lawed...
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Post by clonedrone on Jan 2, 2014 7:13:30 GMT -6
Any of you other old crusty guys remember what we used for antifreeze before Ethylene Glycol? Remember Dry Gas? or Fuel Line anti freeze as it was sometimes called. Back in my day my Methanol Powered Yam, Kt100's had to be fluched with mixed gas after every event. the 360ci and 410 ci sprinter's in my current involvement do not require flushing.
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