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Post by scatterbrained on Dec 28, 2013 9:51:35 GMT -6
On my thread "spittin and poppin at WOT" we have been working on a rich condition. Carb kit should be here soon. Question is this.....when I did the 11 pole stator and 7 pin rectifier upgrade I did away with the auto enricher and fabricated a simple direct injection in the air cleaner tube for cold starts. It ran fine from Knoxville Tn to Aiken Sc. I used a block off gasket to eliminate the enricher and completely removed it. When I started having this problem I removed said gasket, tested said enricher with a 6 amp Batt charger and it checked out fine, a full 1/2 inch of movement, so I reinstalled it. The enricher is tied into the lighting circuit Wich was AC before the stator upgrade. I converted all the lights to DC and put my headlights on a switch. So I'm not using the white wire on the 7 pin rectifier for anything. Should I use the white wire for the enricher with AC voltage? While testing the enricher it doesn't seen to matter if it's AC or DC voltage. Thanks guys. Brock.
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Post by tvnacman on Dec 28, 2013 12:02:38 GMT -6
yes Brock use the white wire for the enricher .
John
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Post by Bashan on Dec 28, 2013 13:10:06 GMT -6
John.....he said Alley or me!! Just kidding there Mr. Power Outage. You're right Brock.....John is a weinie. Oh, we're not talking about that PM? Um.....never mind. Oh oh!, enricher current! Yeah, AC or DC is fine and it doesn't matter which wire you ground for DC. The reason for this is that the heater element is a small resistance coil and as long as electrons are passing through it, regardless of the direction, there's heat.
I agree with John, hook up the wire and use it. An electrical engineer friend of mine said that I should think of electricity as if it were water and the wires were pipes. He then put on his aluminum foil hat and skipped naked down the street. I didn't say he was employed. Anyway, he said circuits are designed to carry a certain amount of "water" and designed with a specific configuration of "pipes" carrying the "water". I told him I got the water analogy and he should move on. But his point was that not using circuits that were designed into the function of the component caused electrons to flow in an aberrant pattern and would cause malfunctions and failures. He said this was especially true with components that used diodes and resistors.
Having said that, I ran a FLP R/R on my Frankenscooter using only the white wire and running DC off of the battery for all circuits. It lived for a summer like that merrily pumping out DC for the battery. I asked Rapid Jim about using such a set up; he taught electronics in the Navy. He prepared to answer by adjusting his aluminum foil hat and said "sure, I do things like that all the time" and then skipped naked down the street. I can tell you, he has really stayed in shape since the Navy. OK,.......where was I, something about a pipe. Oh yeah, the R/R, hook up the white wire. I'm sure you know there has to be a load on a circuit. Just hooking up the supply to a ground equals a short.
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Post by Alleyoop on Dec 28, 2013 13:25:41 GMT -6
Now that is some funny crap. I am pissing in my pants and my wife even bust out laughing. Thanks for the laugh RICH. Alleyoop
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Post by scatterbrained on Dec 28, 2013 13:39:42 GMT -6
Sorry for not including you john:( I use that same analogy about water and current through pipe to so I understand that. Amps is flow of current and watts is power used. Think I got that right:$ I hope like hell that this carb kit has the right diaphragm in it. The pic you showed me Rich has a diaphragm with a small piston or pin in the ACV. Mine is large and I can't find it anywhere. Not gonna worry about it today. Think I'll go make me a tin foil helmet and play lightning hunter with the wife. Bzzzzzz Bzzzzzz! Lol
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Post by Alleyoop on Dec 28, 2013 14:05:56 GMT -6
Hi scatter, Good sense of humor, we can't take this all to seriously and its great to have some joking around all in fun of course.
Now back to your carb, take a picture of it left side and right side and I can tell you what you have. Alleyoop
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Post by tvnacman on Dec 28, 2013 14:57:29 GMT -6
John.....he said Alley or me!! Just kidding there Mr. Power Outage. You're right Brock.....John is a weinie. Oh, we're not talking about that PM? Um.....never mind. Oh oh!, enricher current! Yeah, AC or DC is fine and it doesn't matter which wire you ground for DC. The reason for this is that the heater element is a small resistance coil and as long as electrons are passing through it, regardless of the direction, there's heat.
I agree with John, hook up the wire and use it. An electrical engineer friend of mine said that I should think of electricity as if it were water and the wires were pipes. He then put on his aluminum foil hat and skipped naked down the street. I didn't say he was employed. Anyway, he said circuits are designed to carry a certain amount of "water" and designed with a specific configuration of "pipes" carrying the "water". I told him I got the water analogy and he should move on. But his point was that not using circuits that were designed into the function of the component caused electrons to flow in an aberrant pattern and would cause malfunctions and failures. He said this was especially true with components that used diodes and resistors.
Having said that, I ran a FLP R/R on my Frankenscooter using only the white wire and running DC off of the battery for all circuits. It lived for a summer like that merrily pumping out DC for the battery. I asked Rapid Jim about using such a set up; he taught electronics in the Navy. He prepared to answer by adjusting his aluminum foil hat and said "sure, I do things like that all the time" and then skipped naked down the street. I can tell you, he has really stayed in shape since the Navy. OK,.......where was I, something about a pipe. Oh yeah, the R/R, hook up the white wire. I'm sure you know there has to be a load on a circuit. Just hooking up the supply to a ground equals a short. I would like to try some of what your on , I just hope I don't see the men . Perhaps a few short skirts on a very very windy day (I don't mean kilts). John
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Post by tvnacman on Dec 28, 2013 15:07:05 GMT -6
Now that is some funny snit. I am pissing in my pants and my wife even bust out laughing. Thanks for the laugh RICH. Alleyoop Alley this may help they make them for both male and female John
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Post by Bashan on Dec 29, 2013 16:29:04 GMT -6
I would like to try some of what your on , I just hope I don't see the men. We went to a party and I drank some stuff called Jagermeister. I think it's kinda strong because Sue hustled me out of there when I started goose stepping to Elton John. Avoid it like the plaque, it's a Nazi plot.
Mine is large and I can't find it anywhere. Me too!
Hey, I just realized the pics I posted on that are from my CF Moto Pegasus. It's a bigger carb but it's essentially the same as a GY6.
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Post by scatterbrained on Jan 8, 2014 15:18:12 GMT -6
Got her strightened out. I did away with that @&$?!&$@ auto enricher agian number 1. I also removed the intake cause I sprayed it and found a small air leak 2. The insulator/spacer looked like a kid milled it down with a belt sander so I used a peice of 1 inch x 8 inch mild steel that I use as a surface plate and some 1000 grit paper and got it nice and flat 3. Made a new gasket and used a hard setting gasket sealer on the gasket and spacer and a small amount of black RTV on the o-ring to make sure it had no choice but to seal 4. Totally rebuilt the carb except for the ACV diaphragm witch I can not find for this carb 5. Pulled a light vacume on the ACV AND TO MY SUPPRISE it was good. Put it all back together and she is running like a top! At this point I think it was a combo of the enricher and the intake. I'm glad it is over......till the next little grimmlin shows his ugly little head any way. Thank you Tvnacman, Bashan and Alleyoop for all your help on this!
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Post by tvnacman on Jan 8, 2014 15:51:03 GMT -6
Great!!!!
John
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