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Post by mxmatt on Feb 15, 2014 17:37:31 GMT -6
Replaced my rear bulb blinkers with no issues. When I replaced the front blinkers with same bulbs this is what happens.
yes, I did check to see that the new LED works in the rear sockets.
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Post by Bashan on Feb 15, 2014 19:18:06 GMT -6
When you replaced the front blinkers you probably went outside the relay flashers operative parameters. Alley is da man on these things but I do know that the current differentials between LED and filament cause problems. As I understand it you have to use LEDs or filament and not mix them. The reason for this is relay flashers use a certain current draw to work properly. Ever notice how your blinkers go faster if you have a bulb out? If you get outside the parameters that a flasher works at it stops. Now, you put an LED in a socket to replace a filament and keep the conventional relay flasher it won't work. I've not made the leap to LED mainly because of the expense. I'm not cheap but I guess have to justify a big expense before I'm comfortable with doing it. I don't have charging problems and I have great illumination. So when I go in Auto Weinie and see $15.00 turn bulbs I just can't do it. I know, I know cheaper online...still. Anyway, the flashers for filament and LED are different although I think they may have come up with adaptive relay flashers. The great, powerful, and big nosed Alley will be along soon, I smell brimstone!
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Post by mxmatt on Feb 15, 2014 20:02:51 GMT -6
Thanks Bashan. That makes sense. Looking forward to Alley's response for a possible solution. I hear you on the cost of bulbs, but I got these fairly inexpensive. $4.33 w/$1.99 shipping on eBay.
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Post by Alleyoop on Feb 15, 2014 20:43:27 GMT -6
Yep you need to get a LED FLASHER to equalize the voltage going to them. You can find them at any auto parts store. Look at your flasher and see how many connectors it has 2 or 3 and get one with the same number of connectors.
As you found out the current flasher will handle the two in the rear but not the ones in the front. Alleyoop
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Post by mxmatt on Feb 15, 2014 21:18:23 GMT -6
Yep you need to get a LED FLASHER to equalize the voltage going to them. You can find them at any auto parts store. Look at your flasher and see how many connectors it has 2 or 3 and get one with the same number of connectors. As you found out the current flasher will handle the two in the rear but not the ones in the front. Alleyoop Thank's Alleyoop. Are you saying I need a second LED flasher or a new flasher to handle all four LED's?
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Post by Bashan on Feb 16, 2014 16:28:29 GMT -6
I'm pretty sure if you get an LED relay flasher and use all LEDs it should work. I've never heard of anybody needing two flashers, except my sister in law at her bachelorette party but that's another story. But before you go spend the money on LEDs, maybe big nose ....I mean Alley...will clarify things. I think I see a pair of huge nostrils approaching as we speak.
BTW Mxmatt I got into scooters because my wife ordered two crate scooters from Green Earth Scooters that looked EXACTLY like your bike. I had a helluva time putting them together and joined the now defunct Scoot Dawg to try and get some advice on assembling them. What y'all? I don't have a point, just trolling down memory lane. This is what my bike, which looked exactly like your bike, looks like today, his name is Frankie:
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Post by Alleyoop on Feb 16, 2014 17:13:21 GMT -6
Well I don't have a big nose but I do have a red nose I have a helluva of a cold. But to answer your question you only need ONE flasher REPLACE the one that is on there with a LED FLASHER. Alleyoop
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Post by Bashan on Feb 16, 2014 19:43:35 GMT -6
Sorry bud, I forgot you were sick. Did you try the C with zinc? I'm just goofing on the nose thing because you put the Vern picture up and then said it was me and then you didn't really care and now I look fat!! You're not going to call in sick are you? I mean I have to have somebody there and.....,fine, do whatever the hell you want.
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Post by mxmatt on Feb 16, 2014 20:57:06 GMT -6
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Post by Alleyoop on Feb 17, 2014 13:39:13 GMT -6
Sorry I have not been on much I AM SICKER than a DOG. I have a really bad cold and am hacking, sneezing and coughing. Been sleeping a lot and just down in the dumpster. But Feeling a little bit better it hit me Friday. My nose is not big like MAGGO'S or RICH but it is red, looks like rude off the red nose reindeer(HAHA). As far as this job is concerned for the BUCK THREE EIGHTY I GET YOU CAN SHOVE IT WHERE THE SUN DOESN'T SHINE Alleyoop
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Post by Bashan on Feb 18, 2014 11:01:51 GMT -6
You should read this page and see how the crew reacted to my fake Springer front end and fake intake enhancer. I don't think Alley's trusted me since. I pretty much faked everybody out, I almost felt guilty.
I like the naked look so I left it like that. I learned on that scooter. I took it apart and put it back together many more times that I can count. I experimented, I wired, I painted, I JB Welded cooling fins on, and, well even my wife has a soft spot for Frankie. I say this to anybody, you want to learn how to work on these things? Get the plastic off, take it apart, make some mistakes, and don't worry about how you're going to look on a forum...post it, get some feedback. I've gotten many PMs about how I'm childish, bad for the scooter community, inexperienced, a pretender, and zzzzz. Huh, you were saying?
No, not Lifans, Bashans. They put different engines in many different bikes and are constantly changing so there's no rhyme or reason to what's inside. Generally, if it says Peace industries on your title it's got a Bashan engine. That type of bike you have is made by many different manufacturers with a wide variety of engines and parts. The engines on these scooters my wife snagged were good, really good actually. The electronics, body, plastic parts, tires, all sucked. My bike was cursed, it was constantly breaking down. Of course my wife's started right up, ran like a champ, and was fast as could be. I've yet to find that voodoo doll she has of me.
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Post by Bashan on Feb 18, 2014 11:11:21 GMT -6
Sorry I have not been on much I AM SICKER than a DOG. I have a really bad cold and am hacking, sneezing and coughing. Been sleeping a lot and just down in the dumpster. But Feeling a little bit better it hit me Friday. My nose is not big like MAGGO'S or RICH but it is red, looks like rude off the red nose reindeer(HAHA). As far as this job is concerned for the BUCK THREE EIGHTY I GET YOU CAN SHOVE IT WHERE THE SUN DOESN'T SHINE I know pal, you know me, try to joke through things. I appreciate everything you do, I couldn't do it without you, and don't come back full speed ahead until you're ready.....so ready yet? I'm kidding!
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Post by Alleyoop on Feb 18, 2014 13:43:25 GMT -6
Yes, have to have some fun around here, and don't take things seriously, UNLESS of course they do really mean it. But the guys and gals on here are very nice and can take some joking around which is good. Have fun guys and gals and that is what its all about life is to short for humans on this planet. Feeling much better but still not in full gear as they say.
Having some weird weather around here last night we got THUNDERSNOW can you believe that crap, thundering and lighting and we got dumped with another 6 inchs of snow 2 inchs per hour. Now today the sun is out 47 degress and melting and now we are supposed to get rain WHAT THE HEY is going on.
Alleyoop
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Post by mxmatt on Feb 23, 2014 16:03:24 GMT -6
Still in search of the right LED flasher relay for my LEDs. Will this one work if I re-wire the plug? This is my current set up. This is the one in question.
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Post by tvnacman on Feb 23, 2014 17:51:58 GMT -6
I have a solid state ledflasher .
John
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