Oil smells like gas... By DrRocco (Read 11,838 times)

[clonedrone]

Mar 22, 2014 7:56:55 GMT -6 Bashan said:

Mar 18, 2014 11:02:06 GMT -6 DrRocco said:

I put the first 100 Km on my scooter and decided to do the first oil change.  A few days ago when I checked the oil, it was way over-full,

You guys are missing the point, it's not just a little blow by, it's actually filling the case up....THAT is a problem. IMOAISAHROTO (In my opinion and I'm sure as hell right on this one).

YA! YA! What he said.
Just put this whole Blow Bye thing to rest.
Just taint gunna happen to the extent of a overfill crankcase with out operating issues.
And to that degree you would have Washed down the cylinder ruining it in short order.
Ride On!
Clone

[cyborg]

i agree Cloan if indeed that much gas was washing the cylinder to that extent it would be shot,,,i think it was overfilled from the get go,,

[clonedrone]

I totally agree, Rocco is just being paranoid, oil may definitely smell like gas because both are a derivative of petroleum. im amazed how this thread has fished out tons of responses but the fact maybe no real problem yet occured.
come to think of it, is there a way gas can get into the oil reservoir ? i dont think so, you might all be thinking that gas tank is above the engine and u therefore concluded that the culprit is gravity... so stupet!
the first sign of a troubled fuel line is gas dripping on the floor, and NOT oil smelling like gas, gizzzz!!!!
dont let Rocco fool us, the next time rocco cry for help, nobody will listen,, i forgot but there was a story about that, its like a parable of a crying boy. lol[/quote]

Not sure to take this seriously its so ridiculous.
Are you axing if Gas can get into the crankcase? You don't think so as in you have no idea?
So actually you have "0" experience in what your talking about.
The Carb is above the motor. Have lots of experience with sticking needle valves, sticking floats, Old Brass soldered floats that sprung a leak etc.
all caused raw fuel to enter the cylinder, run past the rings and fill up the crank case.

[cyborg]

i also agree with randy,,,i wold dump out the oil,,i do believe it's time to change anyways correct Doc?,,fill it to prescribed level and ride ,,,but moniter it real closely for the next few rides,,,if you had that kind of "leak" the engine would be very hard to start especially hot

[cyborg]

You have to forgive him Clone,,,it's an other worldly thing,,,,you on the other hand are probably the top engine man here by what i am reading,,, the problem i think is a case of the good Doc having zero experience mechanical wise,,and over filled the case by a little and an added combo of a sticking valve or needle maybe for a short period and boom we have an overfill situation,,as stated before if it was a cylinder washed down situation, the engine would be toast,,,also it may be a case of Doc working out in an unheated garage in the 20'F slightly overfilled and checking hot after a run ,,,

[jct842]

Then too there is a big difference in oil levels depending if it is on side stand or on the center stand. It does not take much to change the level of oil in a gy6. When he first mentioned the smell there was no mention of the oil level growing. Bad gas sticks.

[clonedrone]

Mar 22, 2014 9:17:20 GMT -6 jct842 said:

Then too there is a big difference in oil levels depending if it is on side stand or on the center stand. It does not take much to change the level of oil in a gy6. When he first mentioned the smell there was no mention of the oil level growing. Bad gas sticks.

I would say that the level was checked the same way as in on the center stand or side stand. right or wrong was checked the same way
Rocco did state on a 10 scale the Gas Odor was a 4.
I would think with both these indicators that Gas in fact did get from the Carb into the cylinder, past the rings and into the crank case.
As recommended I would run it and watch it closely.
Ride On!
Clone

68 and Sunny I'm Gunna Ride!!

[LUKE]

i don't think Clonedrone is experienced enough to even distinguish a theory from common sense. do you even wonder why sometimes you smell gas inside your garage where your scooter is parked? it is because some amount of gas leaks from the carb venturi out instead of getting inside the motor, there is a slight angle leaning downwards towards the air filter., it's common sense clonedrone, no brainer.
that is the downside of a carburetor, that is why i stick with EFi....100% no gas leak.
even if you combine clonedrones brain and Kz's brain, it's no match to me....when it comes to common sense, i'm full of it..

[cyborg]

JESUS CHRIST ALMIGHTY !!! Clone has forgotten more than you will ever know in 5 lifetimes you Fu(king idiot,,, the guy lives eats and sh!ts racing engines,, i knew that after like his second or third post,,, he does not live in a fantasy ,, he creates and designs for real,,, not just in his head,,, or out of his a$$ as most of where your posts come from,,, wow

[cyborg]

Oh and as far as being full of it ,,, yes you are ,,, on that point I will agree

[clonedrone]

Mar 22, 2014 17:35:56 GMT -6 LUKE said:

i don't think Clonedrone is experienced enough to even distinguish a theory from common sense. do you even wonder why sometimes you smell gas inside your garage where your scooter is parked? it is because some amount of gas leaks from the carb venturi out instead of getting inside the motor, there is a slight angle leaning downwards towards the air filter., it's common sense clonedrone, no brainer.
that is the downside of a carburetor, that is why i stick with EFi....100% no gas leak.
even if you combine clonedrones brain and Kz's brain, it's no match to me....when it comes to common sense, i'm full of it..

Ya know, I think your here just to tweek and antagonize.
I get paid to Ride Bikes and Work races.
But I'm not going to go any farther listing my credentials to you.
You call me out and you will be humbled to the Gutter in one event.
With Your superior common sense you provide absolutely nothing here!
Your just full of snit!
Just go away!
Rinde On!
Clone

AKA: Pistonguy, Wiseguy, Wiseone, Shootist!!

[jvino]

I am confused on this one sorry I can't help. Hope these guys and girls are getting you squared away.

[Bashan]

First, Dr. Rocco is no idiot, he's not a mechanic but not an idiot. He is quite capable of making intelligent observations. I've communicated with the guy.

Second, we've had several guys on this forum over the past four years say essentially what he did, the case started filling and it smelled like gas. Was it water? Plutonium? These guys all got together and lied for no reason? There were limited factors in the quandary, Occam's razor, it's gas. So there's no way to get in the case? None? Sorry, there's a few with a GY6. If that fuel valve diaphragm is leaking it can leak down when the bike is off...been there. You can pull gas into a line and it drains after you shut it off....been there. Gas can work back through the intake mechanism and work down through the crankcase breather if it's configured a certain way...been there. We haven't got to the point that we've asked Doc if he's getting white smoke through his exhaust or if his mileage went to hell. We're in the preliminary phases of this discussion. You cannot take the characteristics of operation of one engine type and extrapolate them to all others. Respectfully, what would be impossible for a race engine is quite possible for a GY6 IMO. I'd like to see what JR has to say on this. Rich

[Bashan]

I just talked to JR and he had a better explanation than I did. A leaking float valve...of course, why didn't we think of that. Happens all the time.

[clonedrone]

Mar 22, 2014 18:41:26 GMT -6 Bashan said:

I just talked to JR and he had a better explanation than I did. A leaking float valve...of course, why didn't we think of that. Happens all the time.

YA! YA! What you said
I did mention this in post #32
Ride On!
Clone