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Post by mxmatt on Apr 5, 2014 18:41:07 GMT -6
Can't tell you yet because I can't get the darn thing started now.  |
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Post by bobthetechguy on Apr 6, 2014 11:17:00 GMT -6
Have you tried unplugging it and plugging it back in?
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Post by mxmatt on Apr 7, 2014 9:38:13 GMT -6
Have you tried unplugging it and plugging it back in? You're a genious. That worked. I got it started, but I haven't changed out the belt yet. I am hoping to get to it this afternoon if my schedule permits. Looks like I had a bad battery. |
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Post by mxmatt on Apr 10, 2014 13:07:24 GMT -6
So I installed my 842 today. I'll let you know how it goes. Thanks to Bashan for the quick delivery.
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Post by Bashan on Apr 10, 2014 16:03:01 GMT -6
I don't really own the place Matt....I wish. With the way health care is going I might need to open a Fleabay parts store! 
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Post by mxmatt on Apr 10, 2014 17:30:17 GMT -6
So I have put about 20 miles on the new belt. I'm a little sad to report that I am not getting any more at the top end like I had hoped. In fact, I might be 1-2 mph slower and I definitely get there slower. It's not significant, but it is noticeable. I'm sure I installed it correctly as I took my time, watched videos and follow the instructions that were provided with the belt. Anyone else install an 842 belt and experience an increase or decrease in top end speed?
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Post by Bashan on Apr 10, 2014 19:54:48 GMT -6
Let it wear in a bit! Gaaahd! How impatient.  ..........ah boo.
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Post by mxmatt on Apr 11, 2014 4:54:33 GMT -6
Let it wear in a bit! Gaaahd! How impatient. ..........ah boo. Will do great one! |
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Post by davec on Apr 11, 2014 13:25:59 GMT -6
Every time I see this thread 'Am I 842 friendly' for some reason I thing of 420 x 2 ( + 2).  |
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Post by mxmatt on Apr 14, 2014 20:56:35 GMT -6
Definitely seeing a slight top end improvement now.
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Post by Alleyoop on Apr 14, 2014 21:07:43 GMT -6
Here is the thing with putting on a longer belt. A longer belt may cause you to loose top end and here is the reason.
Because the belt is now longer it MAY climb higher in the Variator BUT and here is the BUT, Due to the extra length IT MAY NOT pull the belt DOWN TO THE SMALLEST DIAMETER in the Clutch pulley WHICH IS WHERE it will turn the WHEEL FASTER. So if it does not go down as far as with a shorter belt NOW it depends on MORE RPMS with the belt up high in the Variator to GET TO THE SAME SPEEDS as with a shorter belt. So do not go with a to long of a belt it has to be just the right size to get the FULL benefit, climb the highest in the variator and at the same time lowest point in the clutch pulley.
The way to determine how longer of a belt you may need IF YOU REALLY DO is this way.
Measure the amount on the variator that the belt hasn't climbed USUALLY the most a belt will climb is about 1/8 or so from the edge of the Variator. You will find that a lot of variators the belt is about 1/4 of an inch away from the edge of the variator. If you find that it is 1/8 or less away from the variator that is the best belt you are going to get. But if the belt is 1/4 or more away then you have possibley some top end that your leaving behind.
So if the belt only reaches about say 1/4 or more from the edge subtract 1/8 from that to allow for the 1/8 inch that should be left on the edge of the variator take that number and then subtract 1/16 from that and that leaves you with a number to add to your current belt size find a belt closest to that length. Reason for the extra 1/16 is that the belts stretch so after brake in you will have a little longer belt.
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Post by mxmatt on Apr 15, 2014 9:14:10 GMT -6
Here is the thing with putting on a longer belt. A longer belt may cause you to loose top end and here is the reason. Because the belt is now longer it MAY climb higher in the Variator BUT and here is the BUT, Due to the extra length IT MAY NOT pull the belt DOWN TO THE SMALLEST DIAMETER in the Clutch pulley WHICH IS WHERE it will turn the WHEEL FASTER. So if it does not go down as far as with a shorter belt NOW it depends on MORE RPMS with the belt up high in the Variator to GET TO THE SAME SPEEDS as with a shorter belt. So do not go with a to long of a belt it has to be just the right size to get the FULL benefit, climb the highest in the variator and at the same time lowest point in the clutch pulley. The way to determine how longer of a belt you may need IF YOU REALLY DO is this way. Measure the amount on the variator that the belt hasn't climbed USUALLY the most a belt will climb is about 1/8 or so from the edge of the Variator. You will find that a lot of variators the belt is about 1/4 of an inch away from the edge of the variator. If you find that it is 1/8 or less away from the variator that is the best belt you are going to get. But if the belt is 1/4 or more away then you have possibley some top end that your leaving behind. So if the belt only reaches about say 1/4 or more from the edge subtract 1/8 from that to allow for the 1/8 inch that should be left on the edge of the variator take that number and then subtract 1/16 from that and that leaves you with a number to add to your current belt size find a belt closest to that length. Reason for the extra 1/16 is that the belts stretch so after brake in you will have a little longer belt. Alleyoop Dammit if you don't know "everything" scoots Alley! In my initial post I pasted a pick of my Variator prior to installing the 842. Given your acumen above, does it (eyeball) look like I made a good decision having not measured anything before hand? |
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Post by Alleyoop on Apr 15, 2014 12:09:49 GMT -6
Oh definitely my man that variator is about 3/8 more take away the 1/8 and you have 1/4 of an inch of possible more belt travel. Take away the 1/16 and your talking approx 4-5 more miles per hour on your top end if you can get the belt to go up.
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Post by mxmatt on Apr 15, 2014 13:02:08 GMT -6
Oh definitely my man that variator is about 3/8 more take away the 1/8 and you have 1/4 of an inch of possible more belt travel. Take away the 1/16 and your talking approx 4-5 more miles per hour on your top end if you can get the belt to go up. Alleyoop IF? |
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Post by Alleyoop on Apr 15, 2014 13:13:37 GMT -6
Yep "F" is the big gotcha, to get the belt to climb higher you either need little heavier weights and or more rpms. So to see high high your belt is going up mark the variator like this and run the poop out of it at WOT. Then see how much of a mark is left. Alleyoop  |
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? And again at 2033mi. 
..........ah boo.
..BAD TO THE BONE..