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Post by twowheeler on Mar 27, 2014 6:16:41 GMT -6
When I changed from Mobile 1 to T6 I read that some people didnt like the fact that Shell changed the properties so i emailed them. It appears they were wrong.
Original Text From: SHELLTECHNICAL-US@SHELL.COM To: generalpublicenquiries-us@shell.com CC: Sent: 03/11/14 08:42:20 Subject: RE: FW: Rotella T6
Dear Sir,
Rotella T6 still contains 1200 ppm of the ZDDP (zinc) additive.
Best Regards,
Shell Technical
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Post by kz1000st on Mar 27, 2014 6:36:44 GMT -6
By and large most oils will work fine in these engines as long as you change it at sensible intervals. The "Use Motorcycle Oil" argument, while not harmful, misses out on one very important fact. Motorcycles use the same oil, except BMW and Big Harleys, to lubricate their gearboxes too. Molecular shear is a common occurrence where oil molecules are scissored or crushed by the gears during operation. Yeah, I know it sounds silly but people with much more experience and knowledge than me say so.
Scooters are almost like cars with separate crankcases and transmissions. Heat is the big issue and a good quality oil changed at sensible intervals is the secret to long life.
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Post by clonedrone on Mar 27, 2014 7:29:30 GMT -6
Yes still good and a value But!!! They Omitted the Content of Phosphorus and Sulfur. or Maybe that question wasn't axed? There's allot more to oil than Zinc.
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Post by cyborg on Mar 27, 2014 7:38:30 GMT -6
I change my oil religiously because of the transmission ,,, but i am taking the advice of a very knowledgable rider and switching to maxxima oils,,it is cheap insurance,,,and a hell of alot less expensive than vespas oils,,,holy smokes $14 per quart,,,,my a$$ is still hurtin,,,ouch,,,funny enough my son rides a ducati monster s4 corsa and he is running maxxima,,,
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Post by jvino on Mar 28, 2014 8:17:57 GMT -6
I used yama lube in mine figured I would go to the local Yamaha shop it cost me 14 dollars per quart also I will not be doing that again I will be stopping at auto zone next time. They gave me 15 or 20 w 50 oil and read its better for hotter weather.
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Post by LUKE on Mar 29, 2014 20:18:59 GMT -6
Check out theses test results, Some of the big name high end aftermarket oils (Amsoil, Klotz and Torco) didn't fare as well as OEM Ski Doo XPS2 oil
Anyone with real results with the following oils please post thanks.
Redline injector
Maxima tundra
Legendzx2r
Torco spo or sso
Artic blue
Motul
Spectro sno syn
Rotella t6
I found this info on a Bulletin Board in T.E.S. Racing’s Shop T.E.S. is owned by Tim Sioui who drag races Ski Doo’s on asphalt and specializes in high performance snowmobiles. I believe the info to be accurate and reliable.
ASTM D2670
This is a comparison of anti-wear properties of popular 2 stroke snowmobile oils. This is an American Society for Testing Materials test that is a lubricant industry standard. This particular test incorporates 500 lbs of pressure on a steel pin and vee block for duration of 3.5 hours. There is a 5-minute break-in period with a 300 pound load. The overall wear is expressed in milligrams of lost metal.
The Results were as follows
BG Hi-Performance Snowmobile Oil, Part No. 784S 15.2 Bel-Ray MC-1 47.8 Bombardier XP-SII 66.3 Polaris Premium Gold Synthetic 82.5 Artic Cat Synthetic APV 112.9 Redline 2-Stroke Racing Oil 144.3 Maxima Castor 927 156.4
These Products failed to reach the required testing pressure of 500 pounds. • Amsoil High Performance 2-Cycle Injector Oil • Amsoil Series 2000 2-Cycle Racing Oil • Artic Cat Extreme • Bombardier Injection Oil • Fuchs Silcolene Comp 2 Pre Mix • Klotz Techniplate Snowmobile Oil • Klotz Techniplate R-50 Racing Oil • Torco GP-7 Two Stoke Racing Oil • Yamalube 2-R Racing Oil . Rotella t6
This Oil failed 90 minutes into the test. • Motul 800 Factory Line
This Oil failed 100 minutes into the test. * Polaris Premium 2-Cycle
This may be a little late. I hope the attachment is clear enough to read.
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Post by twowheeler on Mar 30, 2014 4:20:17 GMT -6
So 2t oil sucks. Great I have a 4t
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Post by jvino on Mar 30, 2014 10:42:03 GMT -6
What the heck is 4 t oil? Is it synthetic?
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Post by LUKE on Mar 30, 2014 10:45:53 GMT -6
i toldya , redrush doesnt know anything. he puts 2t oil in his gear box.
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Post by twowheeler on Mar 30, 2014 15:20:20 GMT -6
2t oil mixes with gas. That why sir fartsalot drinks it every night...I might just drinking it too reading his posts.
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Post by jvino on Mar 30, 2014 15:32:29 GMT -6
Oh its for oil injected bikes thanks twowheeler I thought it was some engine oil or something so now I know you ride a two stroke very nice have fun and be safe.
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