turns over, doesn't start By genseeker (Read 3,063 times)

[jvino]

How's gen seeker doing with her scooter? don't give up.

[genseeker]

Finally got someone with experience out to look at the scooter. He tried starting it, then just shook his head. Couple hours later he had engine out and open and showed me what he figured was wrong - piston is cracked. Recommended replacing engine rather than rebuild because he showed me scoring in the piston well. Said he wouldn't be confident damage would not be repeated if just rebuilt. Said carb was problem, ran too lean & damaged engine.

So we looked online & engine is around $400 plus shipping, tax for some places. But he offered me $300 for it as it sits. His son has the same scooter but it is damaged but runs good. Son not interested in selling the engine though. Was last gift from his grandfather before he died. Just need the plastics and can't buy complete set online for $300.

Also, we have a local shop selling chinese scoots & they service them. He knows them and got them to knock $75 off the price and he's giving them the $300 towards a brand new scoot, plus he's financing the balance for me with no interest. We have a contract drawn up and he won't pick up my damaged scoot until after I get the new one, which should be ready tomorrow, they are assembling it for me tonight since they didn't have a blue one ready. I won't have to give him any $$ till next month and then only $25 month but I can give him more. So the new scoot will be $775-75-300=$400 cost to me. This guy is a good friend of my brother's and my brother told me I could trust him to do me right.

[Deleted]

Sounds like you got a good deal for sure! Can't get em that cheap off the internet. Good to hear you'll be back up and running!

[jvino]

Glad to her you got some good help with your scooter and a deal on a new one. Hope you have a good day today and get to fill the scooter up with a wopping 3.00 worth of gas with that is some crusing miles. Thanks for getting back glad to hear your getting taken care of. Have fun and be safe.

[genseeker]

Well, picked up my new scoot yesterday. Its a dark blue/white/black Jazzie branded ATM50. When the guy assembled it the carb was no good so he put an aftermarket carb on it before I picked it up. He also gave me some advice for riding it here in the mountains. Says most people end up needing more power than the 50 cc so they frequently end up installing a 72 cc top end for people but the bill just says engine work so nobody can trace that it's not longer a 50 cc. If I bring him a kit, it'll cost me$50 to have it put in. We also discussed maybe changing the roller weights after I've had it a couple weeks so I can see how well it pulls. I've seen on here this can help maintain speed in areas with hills to climb so will probably end up doing that as well. Don't know what the stock weights are but what would be good weights for up to 200 lb person to ride scoot? My older son is taller than me and built like a bull, almost 200 lbs @ 6' tall.

Only problem I've had so far is on my ride home yesterday the gas gauge stopped working, guessing its a loose cable but didn't have time to call the guy today but that's no big deal.

[jvino]

Ride on geen seeker glad you got taken care of enjoy a running scooter. The gas gauge is probley just a loose cable like you said shouldn't be that big of a deal unless you run out of gas. Get it looked at before your scooter strands you somewhere. Have a good time on your new scoot and ride it easy during the first couple hundred miles.

[Bashan]

At the tank you'll see a blue/white, a blue/yellow, and a green ground running to the float apparatus. Trace them back to their connector and make sure the connection is tight. The float comes out of the tank and you should inspect it to make sure it's not stuck. The gauge will have the same two blue wires but will have a black power wire rather than the ground. Check the connections and make sure the black gets 12v DC with the key on.

[Guitarman]

Forgive me for this but....

The title of this thread.
"Turns Over Won't Start" Reminds me of a girlfriend I had once.... Finally traded her in for a dog. Dog was great. Bit anyone who tried to touch my bike. Damn, I miss that dog.

[Bashan]

Odd....I had a girlfriend that did just that.

[Guitarman]

What's that? Bite people?

[Bashan]

Yes, if they tried to touch my bike, or just for the hell of it actually. Incisor was kind of like Eeky, whirling, snarling, spitting, biting,......my folks didn't like her....go figure.

[Guitarman]

One thing about being a guitar player... You never lack for stories about psycho women. LOL

[genseeker]

12" tires means its a long case right? The engine tag is buried under some hoses so I can't see it hardly at all. The owners manual is very poor with horrible misspellings and no references for measurements. Under gas tank it simply says 6 so I'm guessing that's L, so a little over 1.5 gal.

Anyways, rode out to the dam yesterday, about 6-7 miles away for a party (I'll post pics of the lake later). She hits about 45 downhill but they were fairly short hills, less than 1/10 mile. Up the same hills she drops to less than 10 mph. Me and a load of groc (under seat/trunk & backpack) I'm looking at around 200-225 lbs weight depending on how much canned goods I buy. I have no idea on stock weights in variator but what would be a good size to change them to for this weight? Part of the trip to my nearest groc store has a hill with about 20 deg incline but around 1/10th mile long, rest is pretty close to level.

Also, where's a good place to get one of those magnetic drain plugs & filters for the oil? Want to get one before the first oil change.

[Bashan]

A better choice for your needs might be a stronger main clutch spring. It holds the CVT down in lower ratios for hill climbing but theoretically you get to keep your top speed as the variator weights will eventually, albeit more slowly, push the inner pulley all the way out. Sometimes with lighter weights it can't push it all the way out. The torque spring is this big spring:

NOT the little tensioner springs. I think stock is 1000 on a 50cc, so you'd probably want a 1500. You might try shopping for a torque spring with our tile vendors at the top of the site. Just Google magnetic drain plug GY6 and they are all over the place. Rich

[Bashan]

Clyde, I started you a new thread right here.