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Post by terrigno on Sept 18, 2015 7:24:35 GMT -6
Alright. So I called the guy up and this is what he said. He said that he put 7gram weights in there. He said the lower the gram weights, the quicker they will break. He said maybe 1000 miles the 5 gram weights would eventually break again. He said the heavier gram weights last longer. I didn't know that with changing the weights that would be something that has to be done all the time just to keep the scooter running right. Does that make sense? He doesn't have the 5 gram weights in stock, which are the ones that came on the scooter. He said if I got a cheap pair on ebay that he can install them for free. But I would eventually want to learn the process of doing that myself which I got some videos that show how to remove the variator nut (which is the tricky part) and the rest is pretty easy from what I see. Does that sound about right with the variator weights? Isnt there lighter weights that are durable quality that will last a lot longer and stronger?
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Post by terrigno on Sept 18, 2015 6:04:45 GMT -6
Man Thank you so much for your responses. Its really helping me learn more about the scooter. I feel like calling the guy up when he opens and telling him this. I don't want to have to open it up right now because the symptoms you describe are pointing to heavier weights in the variator. I do have a scale, I weighed one of the weights I have and it is 5 grams. I feel like calling him and asking him if he has 5 gram weights and to put those in there instead of what is in there now. That should be covered and I shouldn't have to pay a dime. Learning all of this, I can see that I can do these things myself. But I paid a pretty penny from error on my end of not being educated about this. So I want to get my money worth lol. I should go ahead and get new rollers anyway since there cheap and probably a better and bigger variator, I guess off of ebay. Is there a specific type you would recommend? I just don't want to put something that's crap on there and make it any worse or cheap. This is my mode of transportation so I don't need cheap things bogging it down. The TaoTao was cheap enough lol
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Post by terrigno on Sept 17, 2015 20:38:34 GMT -6
Oh man. Thank you for the notes. Now I'm learning. He had to install heavier rollers cause the RPMs are down. I can hear it and I feel it. It's like one constant hum throughout the whole range. Should I just buy lighter 5gram rollers or go back and tell dude to swap them?
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Post by terrigno on Sept 17, 2015 17:01:16 GMT -6
I have a changed spark plug in there. NGK. Would it make a difference if its not as tightly installed?
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Post by terrigno on Sept 17, 2015 17:00:17 GMT -6
So maybe what your saying is this is another issue? Because its not reving the way it used to. It seems to be riding in a lower rpm then it was before. I have an exhaust on it. And it seems like its not as throaty aa it was before. So roller weights don't make that much of a difference?
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Post by terrigno on Sept 17, 2015 16:48:40 GMT -6
Yes. lol I'm saying a couple of the old rollers had flat spots. I took one out from the messed up variator and just weighed it. Its the old one, it says 5 grams.
So I would need 5 gram rollers to have the speeds I had before? I am going to assume that the new variator and rollers he installed are heavier rollers right?
I can notice that the speed has dropped a bit. I can hear it by the rev, even though I don't have a tach to prove it. I'm going to say around 5-10mph difference I am noticing.
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Post by terrigno on Sept 17, 2015 16:30:04 GMT -6
The Roller weight is 5grams. And it has a flat spot. You think he installed heavier ones in there?
I might just have to go back to him and tell him that these rollers are 5grams and these lighter ones need to be installed back in there. That actually is what makes the difference? I can buy them since there cheap and try to install them. But since he charged me that amount, I might just have to scoot to Raleigh and have him do it and change the rollers since that is what was in there in the first place. I don't want to do more work since I paid him $110 to do everything already. I don't think he changed the actual clutch since he didn't give that back to me, just the variator and said it was the clutch. I mean these guys sell these things and fix them and have all parts for them to. So I don't see why he wouldn't realize this difference? I'm not understanding that. He said to give it maybe 2 weeks. If it still seems the same, to come back and he will change something. But would changing that out actually need time for it to break in and go quicker? I mean it seems slower now and revs lower also. Is that normal to let something like that break in?
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Post by terrigno on Sept 17, 2015 16:21:15 GMT -6
He told me I can bring it back after a couple of weeks to change something.
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Post by terrigno on Sept 17, 2015 16:20:47 GMT -6
No it doesn't. But I do notice that it doesn't tach as high as it used to. He charged me $110. $65 for clutch and $45 for labor. So you think he changed that clutch in the back too? Either way. I would have to put in lighter rollers to bring it back to speed? That means I have to try and take it apart? crap! He said to let it wear in a little since its new parts. I can weigh one of the rollers
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Post by terrigno on Sept 17, 2015 16:00:04 GMT -6
I know what the clutch part looks like. It has the pads and springs. He's a Chinese guy. Why would he say he changed the clutch?
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Post by terrigno on Sept 17, 2015 15:58:09 GMT -6
That's what I figured! That didn't look like the clutch? $65 for it.
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Post by terrigno on Sept 17, 2015 15:55:22 GMT -6
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Post by terrigno on Sept 17, 2015 15:50:10 GMT -6
I have no idea what that is. The guy gave it back to me and said it was my old clutch. I didn't know the clutch had weights in it? He put a whole new clutch in it.
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Post by terrigno on Sept 17, 2015 15:39:55 GMT -6
Lol. I was riding almost WOT all the time. But now that the clutch was changed, it seems like its a little slower now. Does it take time to break in?
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Post by terrigno on Sept 17, 2015 15:13:51 GMT -6
Here is part of it.
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