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Post by beo111 on Aug 5, 2011 20:07:52 GMT -6
Well I just took out the carb and cleaned it out again thoroughly. I took out the main and pilot jets and made sure all tiny holes were clear. cleaned every hole and passage of the carb. I drained the old gas out and got the STP fuel injection cleaner put it in the tank and got it through the system. I put in fresh gas and went to start it and the same thing happens. Starts for a few seconds and then dies. I still have 12.5V on the battery and spark. I'm sure it's one thing that I'm missing somehow. What am I doing wrong?
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Post by beo111 on Aug 1, 2011 18:20:16 GMT -6
Thanks for the responses, I definitly know it's not a fuel flow problem. I bought the see thru glass fuel filter from autozone and I can see that it's full of gas. When I crank it I can see the gas moving down the tube and refilling the filter. The carb had plenty of gas in it when I took it apart. Also, the petcock is screwed into the tank.
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Post by beo111 on Jul 31, 2011 20:29:32 GMT -6
Thanks sprocket, I assume I'd have to remove the petcock entirely to drain it? Or is there an easier way? With my 150cc, I can just remove the gas line from the vacuum pump and the gas will drain out of the hose. This 50cc is above the carb with the petcock, so I'm just wondering if there is a trick to this before I have gas all over the bike and floor!!
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Post by beo111 on Jul 31, 2011 17:05:13 GMT -6
I've run into this same problem again. I few months ago I posted that my 50cc scoot wouldn't start after storing it for the winter. I cleaned the carb inside and out and it ran great. I haven't been riding it because I have another scoot, but I tried to start it today and it turns on then dies after a few seconds. I took the carb out and cleaned it out and put it all back together but the same thing happens. Here is what I did also:
1. Checked the battery for 12V 2. Checked the vacuum hoses for leaks 3. Checked for spark (have a nice blue spark) 4. Checked forf compression with my finger and there was pressure 5. Adjusted the valves, they were almost closed so I made them .004 top and bottom
One thing I must mention is that while cleaning the carb I assume the bigger jet is the main jet and the smaller is the pilot? Well, I clean out the jets with carb cleaner and use a tiny wire to make sure none of the small holes are clogged. I noticed with the smaller jet I can't get the wire all the way through. Is the hole supposed to be that narrow that the wire can't get through?
By the way, I've had the same gas in the tank since November but I used sta-bil for the for that non-riding time. Could that be a reason it starts then dies? I'm looking for any help!!!
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Post by beo111 on Jun 6, 2011 15:43:00 GMT -6
Just to clarify, when you say make sure my plug is in tight, you mean the spark plug? If so, I'm always afraid to tighten it too much because I hear that it can easily be stripped out! If that happens I'm in trouble!!
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Post by beo111 on Jun 6, 2011 6:39:58 GMT -6
The problem was happening before I cleaned the carb. I cleaned the carb because I left the gas in it all winter, from November to now. I figured the carb had some stale gas in it. I also have a Peace Sports 50cc that would start but once I gave it throttle it would die. Someone suggested that the carb needed to be cleaned on the 50cc which I did, and it works great now. I figured that my 150cc had sort of the same problem and most people always suggest that you clean the carb and adjust the valves when there are running problems.
Well I adjusted the valves yesterday. Top was still at .004 (so I didn't touch it) and bottom was completely closed! I adjusted the bottom to .005, now after putting everything back together and starting the engine, there's excessive tapping!!! Should I bring it down the bottom to .004?
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Post by beo111 on Jun 3, 2011 21:42:00 GMT -6
Ok thanks, I will try tomorrow.
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Post by beo111 on Jun 3, 2011 18:52:35 GMT -6
For some reason, my Roketa 150cc never starts on the first try. I'm happy that it does start eventually, but I still think it's unusual that now it takes 2 to 3 times to get it started. For the past week and a half I've had to give it a little throttle in order to start. When I hit the start button, it doesn't do anything for about 2 seconds then it fires up after the second or third time. So why would it take 2 seconds to react after hitting the start? When the engine is warm and I take a trip to the store, it fires right back up normally so I don't think it's the valves because they'd close after the engine is warm right?! Could my starter solenoid be going bad? By the way, I adjusted my valves last year (.004 and .005) and cleaned the carb this past Saturday. Any ideas?
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Post by beo111 on May 25, 2011 12:35:12 GMT -6
Thanks guys. I cleaned the carb and it started with no problems and have been running fine ever since. Thanks!
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Post by beo111 on May 14, 2011 12:28:59 GMT -6
Thanks for the help. I will clean it and let you guys know what happens.
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Post by beo111 on May 14, 2011 11:42:04 GMT -6
I have a 50cc Peace Sports with a little over 100 miles on it which I purchased early last year. I used it all summer and fall with no problems, and even adjusted the valves to .004 and .005. I winterized it in November last year (used sta-bil also) and tried to start it up for the firsts time today. It runs strong at high idle for 5 - 10 seconds then it just dies every time. Also, as soon as I give it throttle it dies immediately. I have a 150cc Roketa which I winterized also and had no problem starting it up. I kept the batteries on the charger throughout the winter so that's not the issue. My voltmeter is reading 12.9 on the battery. Any suggestions? I'm sure this has happened to others also
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Post by beo111 on May 1, 2011 11:10:41 GMT -6
Looking for people to ride with here in Southeast Wisconsin. I'm from Waukesha County, Milwaukee is a few minutes away so I'll do a little traveling. Let me know!
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