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Post by ccBig on Apr 24, 2012 20:36:45 GMT -6
Hilarious! Just goes to show everyone here at Scooter Doc is ahead of the curve. Scooters are getting more and more popular. If we start to see gas prices north of 5.00 for long periods of time you'll see em everywhere. It makes perfect sense for work, delivery, or just taking a cruise.
I bought my scooter at the end of the riding season last year. Some of my friends were takin' jabs at me for it. All that stopped when I explained I'd be saving $40.00 PER WEEK in gas, just scootin' back and fourth to work. I have had some mechanical issues but I will have paid for my scooter in fuel savings by the beginning of August this year.
With the ridiculous fuel prices, you can buy a 1500 dollar scoot and have it paid for in one year's time. The following years are all savings. Can't poke fun at that anymore.
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Post by ccBig on Apr 24, 2012 20:18:05 GMT -6
My bad. Thanks for the correction.
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Post by ccBig on Apr 20, 2012 20:50:34 GMT -6
Here are some larger Japanese scooter wheelbases -
Honda Reflex - 250cc - 65" wheelbase Suzuki Burgman - 250 - 500cc - 62" wheel base Yamaha TMax - 500cc - 62" wheel base Yamaha Majesti - 250cc Deluxe - 59" wheelbase Kymco Xciting - 250-500cc - 62" wheelbase Kymco Downtown - 300i - 61" wheelbase
The Honda Reflex Chinese equivalent is the CFMotto Fashion. It is very long but it is also very low to the ground. Something you may want to consider.
You can search for the clone of any of these models to find the Chinese scoot equivalent.
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Post by ccBig on Apr 20, 2012 19:24:29 GMT -6
I treated a bike that sat for 3 years without being prepped for storage - did not drain the carbs, did not add fuel stabilizer and had 1/2 a tank of old fuel. It started the next afternoon. I did not have to take anything apart to clean it.
Siphon most of the gas out of your gas tank or start with around a gallon of fresh gas. Pour in an entire bottle of 104 octane boost. Put the cap back on and push the scooter back and fourth a couple of times to mix the boost and gas a little better. Nothing crazy needed.
Now, if you can, open the drain valve on the carb. Be sure you have a catch can set up so the fuel does not go all over the floor. It should start draining, which in turn siphons the new fuel mix through the carb. Let it drain like this for a minute or so and close the drain valve on the carb.
Let the bike sit over night.
If you can't get to the carb drain screw, mix the boost into your fuel, cover the front of the carb with a bunch of paper towels or rag, and crank it over and over and over. This will flood the engine but will also pull the new mix into your carb without draining it. Once the paper towels are pretty wet with fuel, you'll know you've pulled enough through the carb.
Be sure to remove anything you used to choke the carb and let the bike sit overnight. You should have good fuel flow the next day. If that's your issue, it will run.
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Post by ccBig on Apr 20, 2012 18:55:36 GMT -6
I have great luck with Lilian Motors parts site. I've ordered many parts from them and they always ship fast. I bought an entire ignition/trunk/seat/gas cover lock set for $23.00 last year. Included all locks, ignition switch and all clips. Recently though, I've noticed they are out of stock for a lot of parts for my particular scooter. Maybe you will have some luck there. Here's the link. www.lilianmotors.com/
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Post by ccBig on Apr 20, 2012 16:31:10 GMT -6
Thanks anyways bhinch. I appreciate the time you took.
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Post by ccBig on Apr 20, 2012 16:30:02 GMT -6
I know Chinese scooters can be "hit or miss". I also understand that even if someone has an exceptional scooter, I can buy the same model from the same dealer a week later and end up with lots of problems, it's just the nature of the things.
With that understanding in mind, I'd like to ask a couple of questions if that's ok.
Is it comfortable? Any obvious issues right off the bat, mechanical or otherwise - maybe something you caught in the initial PDI? Do you have the horizontal or vertical engine? What kind of real life fuel mileage are you getting - say miles per tank? How big is the tank? Do you have any problems with reliability - at this time, whats the longest trip you'd feel comfortable taking it out on - 25, 50, 100, 150 miles? more? How long from the day it was dropped off to the first long trip you were able to take?
I know you maybe didn't have time to jump on it till it was done in the first day or maybe you did, either way, myself and others are probably just like you in finding time for the PDI, setup, etc. I've never ordered something like this online before. If I know how long it took you and maybe some other details if you think of them, maybe I can plan a little better for when I order one.
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Post by ccBig on Apr 19, 2012 21:30:01 GMT -6
I have found a Chinese scooter with a 64" wheel base. It took me a week of looking. Surprisingly, a lot of scooters with big/bigger engines do not have large frames and even if they do, its hard to word a Google search to find them. Most searches resulted in pages and pages of results to weed through. So here is a link to a 250cc Chinese scooter with a 64" wheel base! It's selling for around 1700.00 dollars - new in crate. I have nothing to do with the company that is selling it. Its just that I have learned how hard it is to find the larger style scooters. You can use this link to start looking for similar scooters being sold by other sites if you don't like this company or brand of scooter. Search for the specific scooter model and you get other, similar scooters for sale by other companies. In case the link does not work the model is the MC-D54 250cc scooter. www.powersportsmax.com/product_info.php/cPath/38_95/products_id/616This is the front runner for my new scooter. Now I'll be looking for someone who has a similar scooter for sale locally so I can sit on it and try it out. Anyone find or know of anything else?
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Post by ccBig on Apr 19, 2012 16:31:54 GMT -6
Thank you for the specs but its actually the CFMotto - 244cc engine with the vertical cylinder.
I found a video showing how to adjust the valves the old fashioned way on YouTube but I can't find it back. The only video I can find on it now is the one that's posted on this site. This shows you how to adjust the valves when the engine is warm and running.
Anyone have a link to a video showing valve adjustment on the CFMotto 244cc engine? If I find it back I'll post it here.
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Post by ccBig on Apr 18, 2012 22:11:59 GMT -6
?!?! Ok. The battery is good. With the headlights switched off (I wired in a switch), I can get it to start but I have to crank it over and over to the point I think the battery is going to die, then it starts. When it does start, it barely runs as fast as when the starter is cranking it, and seems like it could die at any time. After a couple of minutes, it gets stronger and I can switch the lights on without killing it. New Development: now it also sputters when taking off from a stop, even after it's warmed up. It sputters at every stop sign/light. I can ride for a half hour and it is still doing this when taking off. It also sputters if I am at low throttle, cruising around 20 to 25 mph. It did not do any of this before. Up until the end of last season, it started on the first crank and ran strong/great. Most recently, the battery tested good and I replaced the spark plug. I threw the old spark plug back in to see if any of the problems improved/changed - no change - I put the new spark plug back in. I also drained the tube that hangs off the breather assembly, the one with the plug in the end of it. The battery charges fine when riding.
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Post by ccBig on Apr 13, 2012 20:02:47 GMT -6
Like an elephant riding on a toad stool. . Yeah, I feel like Grape Ape on a moped. Excellent info. The 65" wheel base makes a lot of sense. I wasn't aware they made em that big. While looking, I've found some sites list the wheel base in mm which converts into 1651 mm, in case anyone else is looking. Thanks for the info. Any ideas on specific models or types you've had long term luck with? As in it was comfortable when you first bought it and you still like it now that you've had it a while. Or even something to stay away from.
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Post by ccBig on Apr 12, 2012 18:42:05 GMT -6
Hey All,
I'm 6' 1" and own a 2006 Tank Urban Touring 250cc. I feel really cramped up on it. When seated, my knees are up from my waist and I can't put my feet far enough forward or down to get comfortable. I start to get comfortable if I push myself back so I'm just sitting on the front edge of the higher passenger seat but then the handle bars are out of place. Overall, it just feels small.
I read Tank put a 250cc engine in a 150cc frame for this model and that that's why a lot of 150cc and 250cc body parts interchange.
I know I can go and try a few out in person but anyone have a good idea on a larger scooter to look for? 250cc is all the engine I need.
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Post by ccBig on Apr 10, 2012 5:36:27 GMT -6
It was actually doing fine before adding the switch. It would start and run without any problems. The headlights came on automatically and that did not stall the scooter or keep it from starting. Now I can drive it but I have to kill the headlights until it is warmed up.
Good idea. The battery was new last year but I will have the it tested to get started. The electrical gremlins can be sadistic!
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Post by ccBig on Apr 9, 2012 22:54:17 GMT -6
Take the side panels off, on the side where your key lock is located. Start with the bottom panel, then the top panel (this is the panel the lock is located on. You may need to remove a screw that is behind the center cowl (down by your feet) to get the top panel off. You will also need to remove the passenger handle grip on that side. Once you have the panel off you can see the where the cable mounts to the lock. Since yours is broke, the cable is probably hanging there. Take a pair of vice grips and lock on to the broken end of the center cable. Take a different pair of pliers and close them down between the vice grips and the end of the sheathing to your cable. Now pull on the vice grips and push on the other pair of pliers. Your lock should pop open.
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Post by ccBig on Apr 9, 2012 22:38:45 GMT -6
Hey All,
Thanks for your help with the cooling system and carb. My scooter overheated at the end of the riding season last year. Oh boy! Well, I found my cooling fan bearings had gone out which is why it over heated. I've replaced the head gasket, fan, and fan switch just to be safe.
Well, it ran great for two days after the new parts. But now I have a hard start issue. Got stranded at work last week. Luckily a friend came and jumped me.
Never had the problem before. It would always start on the first crank.
With this scooter, the headlights come on as soon as the engine starts running, not before. I cheated the main fuse plug so the headlights would not come on at all. When it was setup like this the engine would start fine. As soon as I put it back to normal and the headlights would come on when the engine began to run on its own, it would stall every time but most of the time it would not even start. I've switched the headlights so I can turn them off. I turn off the headlights, start the scooter, let it warm up, turn the headlights back on, and head down the road.
Any ideas on a part the could go bad and cause something like this? Am I way off thinking it has something to do with the electrical? Any ideas would be helpful.
Thanks.
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