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Post by cirnobyl on May 6, 2011 19:01:32 GMT -6
Ok, let me clarify...
I get 16 volts AC on each of the three yellow wires from the stator. Those are also the wires that are getting warm/hot.
With the new RR, I get 13.3 volts DC idle with the lights and fan off. Reving does nothing.
It seems to be a cfmoto 244.
So not sure what I can do about those wires, other then cutting the plugs off and splicing the wires.
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Post by cirnobyl on May 5, 2011 21:55:29 GMT -6
It's not the fan. I don't have the thermostat in and I have a...interesting bit of ducting work to keep it cool when going down the highway. Works pretty good, as it never overheats. Besides all of my tests are done at idle way before it comes on. As for the AC voltage, idk anymore...that chart is for a different bike then mine. The fact is with my old stator I had 14-15 volts and the new one gets me a stable 16. All the OHM resistance tests checked out OK too.
Anyway, Update. I bought a new RR and put it in. Doing some tests I noticed the wires coming from the stator, near the connector were pretty hot, especially with the old RR. With the new RR I gained .3 volts, going from (with lights off and battery charged) 13.00 to 13.3 voltage. However, revving the engine still does NOTHING. I did a lot of the tests on that flow chart, the only issue I could find was high resistance between the output wire of the RR and the battery, roughly .7 volt difference. Testing along the path I found .25 of that comes from the fuse, the rest seems to be coming from some where behind the kickboard...maybe the ignition switch? Still I don't think .7 volt difference would stop the charge from going up when I rev the engine.
Can the Magneto go bad?
Anyone have any ideas?
EDIT: Also I think I do have a CF250, just someone put the wrong clutch assembly on the back. I replaced the whole pulley/clutch assembly with a standard CF250 one and it went right on.
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Post by cirnobyl on Apr 14, 2011 10:27:09 GMT -6
I have a 2006 Viva Roadster, at least I think so since it had yellow tape spelling the word viva on it. I'm pretty sure it does NOT have a CF250 engine. It has a CN250 because when I went to replace the clutch with one made for a cf250, it didn't fit. The people who sold it to me told me I likely had a CN250. Tried the CN250 clutch and it worked. Other things to know: It has 30w HID lights installed, a performance CDI, new stator and thats all thats pertinent to my problems. I don't think the lights are my ultimate problem though. Even when I had the OEM stock lights it gave me this issue, it just lasted a little longer between charges.
So the problem is If I run it for over a hour, it comes home with a drained battery that won't start again till its charged. I even keep a battery charger under my seat so I won't get stranded. Here is what I know: three yellow wires run from the engine case to the regulator. Each shows a voltage of 16.5 volts AC when idling. It does not seem to fluctuate when I gun it. At the battery, I see a idling voltage of 12.08 volts. Again gunning the engine doesn't seem to help. Also this is with a near dead battery, not fully charged. Lastly disconnecting the lights caused the voltage to go up by .4.
I'm sort of suspicious of the stator I put in because I noticed one of the copper wires that was running from one post to another was touching the silvery metal base. I tried to bend it out but the copper is very stiff and brittle and I didn't want it to snap. The old stator put out 14-15 volts AC with more irregularity which is why I replaced it. The stator I bought was meant for a CF250 though. Maybe the CN250 requires a different stator? They looked identical except the orignal had a longer wire. As far as replacing the regulator, which one should I get? I can't find a site that lists my parts by model so I have to go by engine type.
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Post by cirnobyl on Dec 22, 2010 22:00:44 GMT -6
Yeah I live in Hillsborough. I hope they don't bring it back. If they did I might go move back up to Pasco and just make the commute to USF and back.
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Post by cirnobyl on Dec 22, 2010 21:54:58 GMT -6
That's a relief, thanks.
I was told on /o/ that Florida was going to start doing emission testing across Florida in 2010. I couldn't find any information on it.
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Post by cirnobyl on Dec 22, 2010 21:14:30 GMT -6
So I heard that Florida is adopting California's emission regulations. Now I'm wondering what that will mean for my bike and what I can do with it. While I don't think my bike will need to be CARB approved since CARB is a California only thing, I don't know what equipment my bike might be required to have under Florida's regulations.
Anyway I have a Helix clone with the 244 CFmoto engine. It's currently vented to atmosphere since the PCV stopped working and kept blowing the hose out of the valve cover. I like doing performance upgrades, currently I've got a pod filter, performance CDI/Coil and a CVK carb. I'd like to know beforehand what needs to be done to make my bike compliant. I've never had to do a emission test in Florida.
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Post by cirnobyl on Oct 31, 2010 2:39:15 GMT -6
Ok I don't want to open a new thread so I'll ask this here. Since I've gotten into this performance improvement mode I went on and bought some parts from scrappy dogs. Most of it worked fine but the 32mm carburetor didn't have the same connections for the choke that my old one did. So here is a pic of my old choke, my new not yet installed stator and a blurry example of how they relate. The blue circle is showing where the line from the choke (enrichment circuit) hooks up to one of the yellow AC connections from the stator. My new stator has an extra plug just for this. The red one shows the connector that goes onto the temp gauge in my thermostat. The new carb doesn't have a connection for the temp sensor. So then my temp gauge is pegged at hot on a cold start. So... My old choke, does it rely on info from the temp sensor to variate how open or closed it is? Should I install my old choke into my new carb?
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Post by cirnobyl on Oct 23, 2010 15:14:38 GMT -6
Hey guys, thanks for the advice. I know a local guy who is a expert on motorcycle mechanics. He has access to all the jets I need and I will probably get with him sometime later this week. But for now! I have a treat for you... My aluminum foil spacer worked...in fact probably too well as you will see.. The pop at the end wasn't so bad. A oil line that went into the valve cover popped out and sprayed oil all over the place. I got pics... EDIT: The oil looked watery too me so I took a sniff and it has a bit of a gasoline smell. Since changing the stator will cause all my oil to come out I will just let her sit till it comes time to do the big job. Second, somehow the a/f tightened itself all the way down magically. The test you see done here was with the A/F screw all the way in. A second test after i fixed all the hoses got the fast idle down by simply adjusting the idle screw. I will invest in a adjustable needle jet later. I think my spacer is allowing the needle jet to supply some fuel during idle :S. When I get the oil changed out and can run it for awhile I'll run her and see if the plug comes out gunky.
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Post by cirnobyl on Oct 21, 2010 23:39:20 GMT -6
Its hard to do fine tuning on those screws since with the carb tightened in you can't access them. What little bit I did yesterday pretty much involved taking the carb off, messing with the screw, putting the carb back on, starting it, listen, repeat.
oh btw which screw is a/f? So far the only 2 I've seen is the pilot and the one on the bottom I assume is for the float.
Update:
OK did some more adjustments on the pilot screw. I tightened it all the way in, backed it out 2 1/2 turns, ran it, then another turn, ran it, and then my battery went dead lol. With 3 1/2 turns out it'd still bog but wouldn't die upon adding throttle. Thus I was able to get it mid rpm and WOT. It was awfully rough at mid throttle but really picked up closer to WOT and got a kind GROOOMM sound to it. I liked that, now to make it sound like that through the whole powerband.
My stupid jet Needle doesn't have any notches for adjustment so I made a spacer out of alu foil and I will test it tommorow.
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Post by cirnobyl on Oct 21, 2010 23:25:04 GMT -6
So while I'm doing other fixes on my bike, I decided to see if I could eke more performance out of my bike. Well first thing I looked at was the airbox. After doing some experimenting I came up with this number: Of course it didn't run with that. The slightest twist of the throttle would make it bog and die. So that has me thinking the pilot jet. I haven't been able to test it yet but I was hoping that backing the pilot jet screw all the way off may offer enough fuel. Or am I misunderstanding what that screw adjustment does? I know a guy who can get carb jets for me if necessary. Also, when you do a mod to the intake you should do somethng to the exhaust too, ya know? So what are you guys opinions in that area? Just drill the stock exhaust (or partly debaffle it) or is there a aftermarket solution? My bike is a 244 CFmoto type btw.
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