No spark. By chtmatthew (Read 5,323 times)

[cyborg]

I thought the variator may have been stuck,,, that's alot of miles for the rollers

[Bashan]

That's a valid concern Pete. The gas and oil mix is another. And Alley is right we don't want to trash the motor just yet. There's things to sort out here.

[Alleyoop]

Mar 3, 2015 20:30:17 GMT -6 Alleyoop said:

If the motor sounds good and it runs good It may be the Variator hanging open and not closing that would give you MOTOR REVS but no mph. In the 7K miles it has have you every changed the weights and plastic guides in the Variator.
So if the motor sounds good and it revs then THE next thing to do is TAKE the Variator off and inspect the weights and guides and it may be all that is wrong with it.
Alleyoop

You guys are good..LOL

[cyborg]

You called that quite awhile ago Alley ,,, what threw me was ( if memory serves) the engine was not revving but slowed when the bike was slowing,,, if the engine is revving freely and it's slow you again called variator/ oily belt/ bad clutch / blown final drive,,, not much else left really

[chtmatthew]

Mar 3, 2015 20:30:17 GMT -6 Alleyoop said:

If the motor sounds good and it runs good It may be the Variator hanging open and not closing that would give you MOTOR REVS but no mph. In the 7K miles it has have you every changed the weights and plastic guides in the Variator.
So if the motor sounds good and it revs then THE next thing to do is TAKE the Variator off and inspect the weights and guides and it may be all that is wrong with it.
Alleyoop

I'll try to get a video in the day. I got the scooter at around 7k miles.. its now about 7,150. So I don't know much about it. It sounds really bad though. My dad says its done with.

[chtmatthew]

Mar 3, 2015 22:56:36 GMT -6 cyborg said:

You called that quite awhile ago Alley ,,, what threw me was ( if memory serves) the engine was not revving but slowed when the bike was slowing,,, if the engine is revving freely and it's slow you again called variator/ oily belt/ bad clutch / blown final drive,,, not much else left really

I'm the the hitler baby... haha heard that one yet? I know I was the first to call Alleyoop bugs bunny before I remembered the name. anyway.. thanks guys, I'll try to get a video asap.

[Alleyoop]

HAHAHA, so you bought it used with 7k miles on it and you only have put about 150 miles or so on it.

Well here is the thing if it starts up nice and easy and idles nice and on the center stand it revs up good then I would suspect the problem is in the CVT and not the motor. But I can tell by the sound of the motor if it is weak when you twist the throttle and I also need to see how the rear wheel is spinning when given throttle.

It would be very easy to find out if ONLY for someone to hold the bendix in place and starting it and watching how the cvt is working with the COVER off.

Now some have wired the BENDIX in place to hold it so no hands or used I will try to find the picture of that shot so maybe you guys can do that and have it for use later on.
Alleyoop

FOUND IT:
See the WIRE WRAPPED AROUND THE END OF THE BENDIX SHAFT do that and then start the VIDEO and we can watch the CVT working or not working right and we will be able to tell right away what part is bad.
Now you can wrap the wire around it and actually then just hold it back with your hand above the cvt and away from any moving part. Or you can do it like in the picture he used the bolt and hold to the right of it that holds the cvt cover on to hold the wire on.

[chtmatthew]

Mar 4, 2015 12:50:05 GMT -6 Alleyoop said:

HAHAHA, so you bought it used with 7k miles on it and you only have put about 150 miles or so on it.

Well here is the thing if it starts up nice and easy and idles nice and on the center stand it revs up good then I would suspect the problem is in the CVT and not the motor. But I can tell by the sound of the motor if it is weak when you twist the throttle and I also need to see how the rear wheel is spinning when given throttle.

It would be very easy to find out if ONLY for someone to hold the bendix in place and starting it and watching how the cvt is working with the COVER off.

Now some have wired the BENDIX in place to hold it so no hands or used I will try to find the picture of that shot so maybe you guys can do that and have it for use later on.
Alleyoop

FOUND IT:
See the WIRE WRAPPED AROUND THE END OF THE BENDIX SHAFT do that and then start the VIDEO and we can watch the CVT working or not working right and we will be able to tell right away what part is bad.
Now you can wrap the wire around it and actually then just hold it back with your hand above the cvt and away from any moving part. Or you can do it like in the picture he used the bolt and hold to the right of it that holds the cvt cover on to hold the wire on.

Ok. I will have to do it tomorrow as I was busy all day. The motor sounds extremely bad so I believe that to be the problem.

[cyborg]

If it's making alot of engine noise it could be toasted,,, and new engines are dirt cheap and double easy to change,,,you have that to fall back on if need be,,, so let's see the video alright already

[cyborg]

And on top of it all if you go to the vendors section scrappydog scooters is selling a gy6 engine for under $300 delivered ,,, crazy talk cheap

[chtmatthew]

Mar 4, 2015 20:00:13 GMT -6 cyborg said:

And on top of it all if you go to the vendors section scrappydog scooters is selling a gy6 engine for under $300 delivered ,,, crazy talk cheap

I already have an engine with 1k miles on it..

[Bashan]

Have you ever swapped one? It's a piece of cake. I did it in two hours once including lunch. The engine is not that heavy but a floor jack helps. If you need help we are here.

[chtmatthew]

Mar 5, 2015 14:29:44 GMT -6 Bashan said:

Have you ever swapped one? It's a piece of cake. I did it in two hours once including lunch. The engine is not that heavy but a floor jack helps. If you need help we are here.

I'm gonna see what I can do to get that video on here asap. I have another project at hand remodeling an rv haha. I'll get that video asap.

[Alleyoop]

Cool, hearing the motor will help determine if the motor needs a rebuild. If it's the crank then just slap in the other motor.

[chtmatthew]

I have a video on the way! I just recorded it, it's uploading at the moment.