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Post by billtrek on Oct 26, 2015 11:47:26 GMT -6
Hi Guys, I was checking the chain tightness and noticed the sprockets aren't lined up very well. Which explains why the chain pops off when it's loose. How do you adjust the sprockets right to left to line them up?
Thanks, billtrek
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Post by Alleyoop on Oct 26, 2015 15:04:40 GMT -6
You align the sprockets and chain by moving the entire AXLE in or out on one side. The way I make sure the entire AXLE is square with the front is I measure from one point of the axle on both sides to each end of the cross bar under the trike. You can be up to 1/8 off in your measurement that is ok any more and you will find the chain and sprocket are not aligned. The Drive Sprocket has a little bit of in and out movement to help with the alignment if a little off. If the alignment is pretty off you will find it will not track straight if you let go of the handlbars and it will pull to one side or the other. Alleyoop  |
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Post by crwford on Oct 26, 2015 18:33:28 GMT -6
On my 2013-15 Zodiac's the chain drive rear is fixed but out put gear could be on backwards. If I take off 10 mm bolts rotate ring till it slides off shaft side gear off and turn over and see what happens. On mine if you put everything on right there is now way to adjust in or out on either gear. What type do you have and what year. what cc
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Post by Alleyoop on Oct 26, 2015 18:59:45 GMT -6
Yours is a 300 which has a different axle setup, his is like mine a 150 with a straight axle with a Open Type Differential piece to drive both axles.
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Post by billtrek on Oct 27, 2015 16:19:35 GMT -6
Alleyoop, I'm not sure what you mean by "moving the entire AXLE in or out on one side" Do you mean right to left or front to back? Also Is the crossbar your talking about for measurement the bar in your photo that is above the chain and sprockets? And you mentioned the drive sprocket has a "little bit of in and out movement to help with the alignment if a little off". How do you adjust that? And mine only has 2 eye bolts for adjustment. Is there suppose to be 4? That could explain why it's constantly loosening up.
crwford, It's a 2014 Ice Bear 150 Viking As far as the drive sprocket, The bolts are on the outside.
Thanks
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Post by Alleyoop on Oct 27, 2015 17:36:00 GMT -6
BILL, the cross bar I am talking about is in the middle of the TRIKE underneath you should see a bracket on each side where the CENTER STAND was when it was a TWO WHEELER. The Cross bar there is the one I use to measure. And you move the axle IN AND OUT to align it. The Drive Sprocket has no ADJUSTMENT it just has some play to help with the alignment OTHERWISE any little cock of the rear AXLE would put a strain on the chain. I am surprised it only has TWO brackets, the 150s used to all come with 4 brackets and only the 50cc's came with TWO BRACKETS. But it the 2 bolts on each bracket are coming loose a little or not holding Try some LOCK WASHERS. Or like some have done they got LONGER BOLTS and but a LOCK WASHER AND NUT on the other side. Alleyoop  |
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Post by billtrek on Oct 27, 2015 22:13:24 GMT -6
Alley, That picture points out where I should measure from perfectly. Thanks.
I'm still not sure what you mean by "you move the axle IN AND OUT to align it."
I have the rear sprocket over as far to the left as I can get it. And it still
doesn't line up with the front sprocket. It has 4 sets of brackets but only the
2 center ones have the eye bolt adjusters.
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Post by billtrek on Oct 28, 2015 10:44:51 GMT -6
Well frustration has finally set in. I tried measuring from the crossbar shown in alleys picture but cant find a straight line to the rear end,the motor is in the way. Tried measuring from a bolt behind the rear footpegs and got it within 1/8 inch. But the sprockets still don't line up and the chain pops off.
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Post by Alleyoop on Oct 28, 2015 11:05:57 GMT -6
Bill, take a picture of the rear like in my picture here so I can see what your problem is: I know these trikes like the back of my hand so something is not right with yours. Also what I mean by IN AND OUT is like this: Also to measure find a spot NEAR the end of the AXLE toward the wheels where you can measure from the same spot on each side of the axle. See the RED LINES ON BOTH SIDES you have a clear shot from underneath to the axle sides. By IN AND OUT I MEAN You push one tire in toward the front or pull back to square the axle with the front part of the frame. You cannot use any of the BARS on the SWINGARM cause that is all part of the rear section that moves up and down. CLICK ON THE PICTURES TO EXPAND THEM SO YOU CAN SEE THINGS BETTER:WHERE TO MEASURE FROM AND TO:  CHECK SWINGARM BOLT HOLDERS:  |
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Post by billtrek on Oct 28, 2015 12:11:39 GMT -6
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Post by Alleyoop on Oct 28, 2015 12:26:25 GMT -6
Ah, I see what the problem is that is NOT A TRIKE MOTOR on there that is a TWO WHEEL MOTOR and the Drive Sprocket is a HOME GROWN thing that has to MUCH PLAY LEFT AND RIGHT. The Drive Sprocket HAS TO ONLY BE ABLE TO MOVE IN AND OUT about 1/8 that is all. So to fix that You FIRST NEED to stablize the DRIVE SPROCKET on the motor. Now that motor ONLY HAS ONE MOUNT ON THE REAR so I would bet that motor is moving back there with the torque being applied on the sprocket PULLING ON IT and breaking the chain or popping it off.
So Bill sorry to say you FIRST NEED TO MAKE SURE the DRIVE SPROCKET only can move in and out about 1/8 AS WELL AS THE MOTOR BACK THERE DOES NOT MOVE.
Did you do that are did you buy it like that? Some one blew up the MOTOR ON THERE and did not want to dish out over 400 bucks for a trike motor and bought a two wheel motor cheap got some parts to attach the sprocket to the drive shaft of the two wheel motor.
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Post by billtrek on Oct 28, 2015 12:39:29 GMT -6
I bought it from Jim at rapid repair. It came directly from ice bear.
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Post by Alleyoop on Oct 28, 2015 12:42:57 GMT -6
That used to also have 4 adjustable Eyebolts I can see there they are missing on the outside brackets.
That is also one reason the axle is moving on you EACH BRACKET back there should have 2 bolts holding it in place you only have 1 bolt on the outside brackets I cannot see how many bolts on the two inside brackets but like I said each bracket should have 2 bolts holding it.
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Post by Alleyoop on Oct 28, 2015 13:27:46 GMT -6
I bought it from Jim at rapid repair. It came directly from ice bear. Well you bought it brand new from JIM BUT it did not come with that motor and setup. You somehow blew the motor and found a TWO WHEEL MOTOR and put that together (RIGHT). You should have just rebuilt the motor with a new top end for a lot less than what you probably paid for that two wheel motor. If you still have the TRIKE motor I would just rebuild that It is a 157QMJ and parts are everywhere for it. You can get the OEM stuff or even go up on displacement for a little more power without having to do much to the motor really. The bolts that are missing you can get them easy even the eyebolts that are missing. As long as you DID NOT CUT OFF the OTHER MOTOR MOUNT on that SWINGARM you will be fine. Now If you are going to try and salvage it using that motor THAT DRIVE SPROCKET MUST NOT HAVE PLAY TILT WISE it can move in and out on the shaft about 1/8 of an inch BUT if that SPROCKET can tilt in and out in other words WOBBLE on the shaft you will never be able to save your chains. |
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Post by billtrek on Oct 28, 2015 13:31:05 GMT -6
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..BAD TO THE BONE..
