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Post by blu on Apr 12, 2016 19:41:42 GMT -6
Howdy all! After riding my old Harley forever, the time has come when arthritis ended my Harley days. So I ran out and bought a used scooter. It's a 2005 CF Moto Voyager 250cc, a clone of the Honda Elite 250cc. It's a new experience with the cv 6 and all. So I'm just learning about these things. I'm pretty sure I rushed into this thing without any knowledge and paid too much, but that's ok, I've always paid for my education.
So now the questions. This thing only has 2100 miles on it and doesn't look like it's been used much. I'm concerned about overheating since I'm in Florida. I've seen no indication of overheating, the coolant looks good and the proper level. Maybe I'm just paranoid. 2nd question, the oil indicator showed mostly green until yesterday and now it's mostly red. I checked the level and it looks like someone thought you should screw the stick in, so it was a little low. I topped it off and the indicator still shows mostly red. Are these things just a little finicky? Or should I be looking for something gone amiss. 3rd question. When I first take off, there is a momentary chatter, feels like the belt might be slipping. Once I get rolling it's fine. Is this normal? I'm 225lbs, so I'm wondering if maybe it just takes a little work to get my fat butt moving along. And last, the fuel gauge doesn't work, though I saw it work once for a couple seconds then went dead again. I suspect a connection somewhere, but unlike my Harley, nothing on this thing is easy to get at!
Thanks for any help you can give me.
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Post by Alleyoop on Apr 12, 2016 20:00:56 GMT -6
The oil indicator is just a maintenance reminder you need to just re-set it. The oil indicator reset button should be under your temperature gauge. RESET ENGINE OIL CHANGE INDICATOR To reset the engine oil indicator, push the oil indicator reset button on the instrument panel for 2 - 5seconds. The chatter taking off is the CLUTCH PADS slipping on the bell. They are most likely glazed and all you need to do is take a fine sandpaper and take the glaze off. That usually happens due to being real easy starting off, that is a lot of weight to move so I tell the folks to give it some gas and once it moves out you can always throttle down. Fuel Gauge check if the sensor is ok , get a piece of wire put a bend on the wire TURN the KEY ON and with the wire locate the float wire and when you do you can move it with the wire and see if it registers. Most of the time the Resistor plate is either to tight or to loose and the gauge registers are all over the place depending on where it gets stuck. If the voltage is good meaning when you move the float up and down with the wire then YOu will need to take the sensor out and check the resistor plate and see if it is tight or loose and adjust accordingly. scooterdoc.proboards.com/thread/212/gas-gauge-needle-erratic
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Post by davec on Apr 12, 2016 20:01:26 GMT -6
1. cooling: my first impression would be that you shouldn't have any issues, even in Fla. But, not knowing how long it's been sitting, not a bad idea to change all fluids, and dont forget to burp it. Then make sue the fan kicks on/recycles. 2. The oil level level indicator is crap. Just check the oil regularily and change every 1000 miles. 3. Slipping belt is my guess. Might not be a bad idea to get a new belt. And maybe rollers. 4. Fuel gauge, yes, sounds like a bad ground. Track the wires is all I can suggest. Alley will be here shortly to provide more detailed information. (too late) (I rode a Honda Shadow Sabre, Magna, Goldwing and Helix, so I know nothing of what you refer to as HD)
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Post by blu on Apr 12, 2016 20:32:00 GMT -6
Wow! Great info and quick, thanks! I don't see an oil reset button. there is some kind of slot in the dash that goes somewhere and does something, I have no idea. The seller said the fan worked, but he was trying to sell me something for too much money, so..... I know how to troubleshoot the fuel gauge, but getting at it is a bit different. I did find a service manual online for a Helix so I have some instruction. I'll get the cover off the fuel tank and have a look at the sender. As for the chatter, there is a brand new belt in the trunk. I have to get the side cover off and try to see what's going on, if anything. Like I said, this thing doesn't look hardly used. I don't know why. the guy I got it from had two others that were beat to crap, things falling off and stuff held on with bungee cords. All I can figure is he got a deal on it and bought it for a flip and doubled his money. Thanks again for your response!
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Post by blu on Apr 13, 2016 10:25:11 GMT -6
As for the oil indicator and that little slot under it, I found this:
Note that the 80-125-150-250 Honda's have a small window in the speedometer. The window changes color from green to red every 1000 miles. It's to remind you to change the oil. After you change it, just place the key into the slot on the lower left side instrument panel and push. This will reset the indicator back to green.
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Post by Alleyoop on Apr 13, 2016 11:50:11 GMT -6
Good poop on the OIL indicator maintenance light, I will add that to my info thanks. Alleyoop
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Post by blu on Apr 13, 2016 14:42:10 GMT -6
Doesn't work, but that's what it's supposed to!
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Post by Alleyoop on Apr 13, 2016 15:01:26 GMT -6
Well those idiot lights are just that idiot lights (HAHA). If you cannot get it to reset just cover the light up and move on. You will need to change the oil about every 1000 miles and just do what I do. Before I go for a ride I check the oil level, fuel level with a stick that I have marked for approx fuel(my tank almost holds 5 gallons) So I have marked 4 lines which represents 1 gallon each mark. I start the Trike then as it is warming up I check all the lights and make sure the tires have air before I jump on it and take off.
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