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Post by epdowd on Sept 22, 2010 12:31:05 GMT -6
I was in the process of replacing my OEM variator with a Dr. Pulley and put sliders in place of the rollers. Well, working back and forth with Mike at Buggy Parts NW after I'd received the Dr. Pulley there was a problem. This scoot is a 150cc, MC-ZS-18, 16" wheels, Znen Phoenix from Sunny Sports. After measuring and comparing, it seems the OEM variator is for a 250 cc . 17mm shaft, 21 teeth, ramp plate hole 17mm, variator OD is 123mm, etc, etc. Phooey !! I'm interested to know if any other Phoenix owners have run into this surprise ..
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Post by mikebpnw on Sept 22, 2010 15:31:22 GMT -6
Well, it's kind of a bad thing since the slider weights he originally purchased have been determined to be the wrong size, and the correct variator is the same one used in the CN250. In other words, the cost to upgrade would be essentially double what it would be if it were a standard GY6 variator. We're working together to get the GY6 Dr Pulley variator returned and go from there.
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Post by epdowd on Sept 23, 2010 8:48:58 GMT -6
I want to add that Mike at Buggy Parts NW has been a great help on this..Buy from Mike !!! I've decided to use the OEM variator, I polished it up nicely and will try a combo of 11,12,13 gram sliders. Play a bit more with the carb..This is a good forum ;D
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Post by steve1428 on Oct 1, 2010 14:34:55 GMT -6
Hi, I'm in the same boat with a ZNEN 150 (flyscooters cadenza) Can you tell me what size the rollers are, I ordered a variator supposedly for a znen 150 and it's too small, I think it uses 18X14 rollers which is what most 150's use.
I want to just order replacement rollers like you did
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Post by ootscoot on Oct 1, 2010 19:43:36 GMT -6
I believe the original rollers for the Phoenix were 16g, which gave the bike a good top end, but a bit of a bog at start...I can't remember the size though.
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Post by epdowd on Oct 3, 2010 21:27:10 GMT -6
Steve,, sorry I'm late on answering, was out of town.. Yes, the oem variator on our scoots are larger than most that are available. The original rollers were appox. 12 gram. I swapped 11,12, and 14 gram sliders,and mixed the 12 and 14 for a 13 gram combo. I marked the pulley to see wich was the best results on take off power and top end. I settled on the 12 grams. 11 gram worked pretty good but rpm was a bit higher. I weigh 180 and don't carry much in the box. Hope this helps.. OOP's They are 18x14 sliders..
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