Sue's New Pegasus By Bashan (Read 4,374 times)

[tvnacman]

well try leg streching therapy , I understand it takes time , until then lean on one leg .

[kiwiscoot]

'70 style platform shoes - problem solved - see easy. Oops how to do the persuasion??

[cookees]

to hell with the platform shoes..... talk her into some 6" stilleto FM pumps!

[Bashan]

Hey, I wear the 6" FM's in this house mister! Wait a minute, I think I said too much. How many people do you think know what FM's are Cookees? Another thing about the Pegusus is that it is a heavy bike, 365 lbs if I remember right. That coupled with the height issue just made it not a good fit for Sue. We'll find her a really cool scooter one day, in the meantime she just loves her Silver Streak Bashan. And I absolutely love the Pegasus, it fits me to a tee. Rich

[Bashan]

Speaking of the Pegasus, I took all of the plastic off as many of you requested and got some tech pics of it. The plastic came off with amazing ease, just like an engineer put some thought into it...how strange. The engine number is not on the lower left case, it's on the back by the transmission, here's a pic of the stamp:

1P so it has the head that seems to promote so much debate, and 58 so the bore is 58MM, also a little bit odd. There's no Q in the designation so I'm not sure how that shakes out either. Another oddity on this engine is that the plug is on the left side, not the right. And of course it's water cooled which we'll get into forthwith. I'll break this up into several posts so that it doesn't take so long to load.

[Bashan]

Here's some pics with all of the side plastic removed. It of course is designed very similarly to the standard scooter concept but the quality of the materials is first rate and ease of accesss is excellant:

This shot sows the right frame rail where a seven wire rectifier is found, a DC CDI, and a solenoid with way too many wires for any solenoid's good:

I know a gentleman was asking not too long ago where the CDI was on his CF Moto, I think it was here.

[kz1000st]

Another thing about the Pegusus is that it is a heavy bike, 365 lbs if I remember right.


I'd check again on that number Rich. My Big Ruckus, which has frame rails twice as long and twice as thick, weighs 363 pounds. I was going to say "only" but Sara's Rebel weighs "only" 331 lbs (Includes all standard equipment, required fluids and a full tank of fuel ready to ride) I find it hard to believe a Pegasus weighs more than a Rebel.

That would also make it almost 100 pounds heavier than my 272 pound Eagle (Bashan) Milano 150.

[kz1000st]

Model: Big Ruckus (PS250)
Vehicle Type: Four-Stroke
MSRP: $5,499.00*
Color: Safety Yellow
Engine: SOHC; 2-valves per cylinder, Liquid-cooled single-cylinder 4-stroke
Displacement: 249 cc
Bore x Stroke: 72.7 mm x 60.0 mm
Carburetion: 30.0 mm CV with auto-enricher
Compression Ratio: 10.5:1
Ignition: Fully transistorized
Transmission: Automatic V-Matic belt drive CVT
Suspension:
Front: 33.0 mm hydraulic fork; 3.9 in. travel (99 mm)
Rear: Single-side swingarm w/single shock, no adjustability; 4.7 in. travel (119 mm)
Brakes:
Front: Single 240.0 mm disc w/CBS 3-piston caliper
Rear: 160.0 mm drum
Tires:
Front: 110/90-12
Rear: 130/70-12
Dry Weight: 364 lbs. (164.7 kg)
Seat Height: 28.45 in. (721 mm)
Wheelbase: 57.3 in. (1,455 mm)
Fuel Capacity: 3.2 gal. (12.1 l)

[Bashan]

Ok, let's do the cooling system, the point of taking all this plastic off. We've got a really nice aluminum tank with a thermostatically controlled fan:

From the back we have the hose connections:

The one on the right runs down the column and over to the pump intake, the light blue line shows it's course:

From there it gets a little hinky, a hose exits out the top of the pump and then snakes under the engine to hook into the water jacket on the bottom of the engine. Again, the light blue lines help follow the hoses:

This view gives you a better idea of where we're at under the engine:

From there, the coolant circulates to the top of the engine and exits via this attachment that has a temp sensor:

The blue line shows the coolant headed downwards and on to this line:

Then under the scooter:

And up the side back up to the radiator:

Well, that's enough exciting stufff for now. If anyone knows anything about this engine, whether it's the GY6 "B" we're hearing about, or any tech info, I'd like to hear it. Rich

[Bashan]

Well I searched the CF Moto site and found the reason for my confusion on the weight issue. Here's a screenshot from the E-Charm spec page which is identical to the Peg. The carton weight is 365 (red dot), while the dry weight (blue dot) is 286:

So the CARTON is 365.....my bad. But still, you add some fluids to the Pegasus and I'd guess you're nudging 300, heavy for a 150cc. Sue's silver scooter has a dry weight of about 265, very noticeable difference.

One thing I didn't touch on before when going through the scooter was the odd intake manifold:

It's very tall but even odder is the bolts, or lack of, holding it on. The one on the left in the photo is actually a bolt but the one on the right (scooter left) looks like a large rivet, not a bolt at all:

Here's another view:

Again, this scooter is a bit of a mystery to me. Anybody that has some insight into the technology of this bike is more than welcome to comment.

I've got the Binetto trunk mounted and I'm going to start commuting the 80 miles round to work with the Peg. At 80 to 90 MPG I'm going to see if I can beat the gas prices. I'll let you know how it shakes out. Rich

[Bashan]

Sure, if you don't have the throttle cracked as far you're sucking less gas. If you get too slow you might have diminishing returns, I'm not sure. I'm at work right now and what I noticed on the way in is that this bike finds its sweet spot right away as far as RPMs and likes to stay there. I don't have a tach on it yet but you can just tell by the feel and sound of it. It was pushing 70 MPH on the Chinometer on slight downward roads and a touch over 65 on flat roads. I seemed to be easily keeping up with traffic so it might be pretty close to that. I'll have to check that also with a GPS. It is fun as hell though I'll tell you that. Rich

[cookees]

I now have about 100 miles on "Merv" , (Sue's Peg brother.) Mine is silver. It's running like a champ.

[Bashan]

They are a bit tall and have a higher center of gravity than what most folks are used to on a 150cc don't you think Tom? It doesn't bother me after horsing that Vulcan around for years but I can see how it might take some getting used to. Yep EM, the underseat is great. I'm not sure how to quantify such an irregular shape but it just seems like it just keeps on taking more and more stuff as you load up. Yesterday when I loaded up at the clinic I walked outside with the usual stack of patient folders to bring home to my wife for review. One of the office staff was standing beside me helping and said " there's no way all of this will fit in this thing". She stood there slack jawed as more and more files were swallowed by the bucket. There were a few left which plopped in the Binetto truck with my jacket with room to spare. Then there's the side pocket on the right side of the bucket for your paperwork that exemplifies how CF Moto thinks of the little things that really help. Another example is the high beam flasher switch, a really nice touch that stops cars in their tracks from pulling out in front of you. When I took the plastic off it was not brittle and had all the speed screws in easy to reach spots. It was ALMOST fun. I really love the scooter and want to get into the tech part of it some more after I put a few more miles on it. Rich

[mcalli]

OK, I know the solution for Sue problem (which is what this thread is supposed to be about) My first bike was a roketa 150 cc -mc 74. It is a lighter bike, she will be able to put both feet on the ground (my daughter is only 5 feet tall and she can put the balls of her feet on the ground- she has very short legs). And it goes 65 miles per hour. It was a good little bike. I never had any problem with it. It really does fly. It would be a good match for Sue. Sure it is cheap chinese. but it runs like crazy and seems to be a fairly well built bike.

[cookees]

I reiterate.... the perfect 150cc for those bereft of height.

Aeolus Retro 150.

Made like a Swiss watch.