2010 FLY SCOOT IL BELLO By hydrostream (Read 3,134 times)

[hydrostream]

I HAVE ONE I INHERITED. I LIKE IT BUT I KNOW YOU GUYS WILL SAY IT IS CHEAP. QUESTION, I LET IS SIT FOR A COUPLE WEEKS, AND IT STARTED THEN CUT OUT MINUTES LATER. I ADDED FUEL AS IT WAS LOW AND NOW THE FUEL JUST RUNS OUT UNDER THE BIKE FROM THE CARBURETOR, PRESUMABLY. I AM ASSUMING THE FLOAT IS STUCK OPEN, PERHAPS FROM IT RUNNING LOW ON FUEL (NOT OUT OF FUEL, BUT IT WAS LOW).

DO I DO SOMETHING ELSE, OR SIMPLY PULL THE FLOAT BOWL AND CLEAN IT? IS THIS AN ETHANOL FUEL PROBLEM OR WHAT? IT IS ODD. LASTLY, WHILE I AM IN THE CARB, DO YOU SEE ANY BENEFIT FROM UPGRADING TO THE LARGER #72 JET? THANKS SO MUCH. RONNY

[jhbietz]

I don't think anyone on this sight is going to give you a bad time about your particular scoot. We love em all around here. To answer your question, I do believe a good carb cleaning is in order. If you need some instruction on the process check the tech section. As for ethanol that is a debatable question. I personally believe that it is harmless and actually helps keep the fuel system clean. I use it in everything I own and have not had any problems.

[sprocket]

I hate Ethanol in these engines. Leave it a few weeks and it starts to oxidize. The rubber parts on these carbs and fuel lines are not E-85 approved either.

There is really no benefit over 87 octane, E85 burns slower, lacks power and rusts the inside of the gas tank...

[hydrostream]

Thanks for the responses. anyone have a diagram of what parts to remove on the bike to get to the carburetor? any tricks? i have always just pulled the carbs off of my motorcross bikes, shot some compressed air, or even an aerosol lubricant (wd-40, crc...) into the orifices, put back together, and rock on.

I did call the dealer and he said the float was hung open in the carb, and to clean with brakleen, not carb cleaner as he stated the carb cleaner will expand all the rubber pieces of the carb, but brakleen will not. any thoughts? I could just pull the carb and soke in sea foam probably.

as far as ethanol goes, it has been problematic in everything i run and in a car your gas mileage drops big time with it. WHAT ABOUT USING THE # 72 JET SIZE THAT IS OFFERRED AS AN UPGRADE? SHOULD I DO THAT? THANSK A LOT.

[sprocket]

You usually just have to remove the seat tub to get at the carb...

Your jets are probably plugged. I doubt the float is stuck...

Give the carb a good clean and manually run a fine wire through the jets. Carb cleaners may or may not clean them... WD40 certainly won't

If you change the air box to a UNI or something then you may need a larger jet. Otherwise putting in a larger jet will make it run like sh^t. Jets are changed in order to balance the air flow to fuel...you usually have to try three or four different sizes until you get one that works well...

Brakleen is a good degreaser but I have never used it on a carb.. might work OK

[hydrostream]

but wouldn't the float be stuck to cause fuel to run all over the place onto the ground?

[sprocket]

Before you rip the carb off check your fuel lines..there may be a cracked/loose line...

There is a petcock on these systems and it should prevent what you describe. Something is not right...

If the fuel lines are OK then it sounds like the float is stuck or the needle has lost the rubber tip...or there is something like dirt holding the needle valve open...

[rj]

fixed. the needle beneath the float is springloaded and it was stuck open. i removed it and pushed it down and fuel gushed out. started right up after that.

i read the 72 jet will give a little more power without me having to modify air box. is this so? it is definitely healthier to burn a little more fuel. any thoughts? thanks again.

[sprocket]

>>72 jet will give a little more power

The only way to know is to try it on your set-up. Every engine is a bit different.

[rj]

does that bike come with a 72 or a 68 or what jet?

[sprocket]

No idea..

[scrapper]

Hi Folks, just joined and have been looking at 150 scoots for awhile. Like a moth to the flame I'm drawn to the Chinese vintage-style scoots. Must be a gene defect or a weird sense of adventure...

A local B&M dealer sells the Ill Bello for $2,400 out the door, TTL, PDI. Does not include a trunk or windshield and vinyl seat.

This scoot is not my first choice but it's all I could find locally that is in the style I am wanting. The MSRP is 1,899.

Dealer claims the Fly models are the best quality and won't sell/service any other Chinese models which is unfortunate because I am really attracted to the BMS Palazzo 150cc. (a Heritage refreshwww.bmsmotor.com/scooter/product_83_Palazzo_150.html) which I would have to order online. The Palazzo comes with trunk, windshield and perforated seat.

I feel BMS/ZNEN is on par with Fly but having no experience at all therefore I defer to your input.

Cheers.

[sprocket]

Your choice should be governed on whether or not you can fix the scooter yourself. If the answer is NO buy from a local guy that will fix it.

Buying on line you are on your own and the warrantees are very difficult to make a claim on...

There are thousands and thousands of scooters in garages all over that don't run.. because the owner figured he would save a few bucks and ordered online...now he is stuck and nobody will fix it...