Renamed: Scooter Won't Accelerate / Start By straightbangin (Read 24,379 times)

[straightbangin]

If I try to turn the clutch assembly a little to the right or left I can feel the back tire wanting to move a little forward or backward. When I tried to trun the variator it will turn and rotate the belt but its very squeeky/tight for 1/4 turn ( i was turing it as much as it would turn at a time which is about 1/4 turn) then I'd turn it again another 1/4 turn and it was tight / squeeky again, but then the next 1/4 turn it would turn easily, same pattern over and over again. Not sure if thats normal. Its still charging on the battery charger.

Does that make sense or should I film it?

[sprocket]

The tight turning is caused by the piston making compression.. this is normal...it goes tight.. loose... tight loose in one turn.. hence a 4 stroke...

But if you turn the back clutch by hand it shouldn't be turning the rear wheel...the clutch should not be engaged...

[straightbangin]

Hmmm. I had it on the kick stand ( not center stand ) so I was not trying to turn it hard. They keys were not in the ignition. Perhaps I should put it on center stand and see just how much it will turn the back wheel if it has the freedom to move? (since its not supposed to) (thanks sprocket)

[Alleyoop]

Well the REAR WHEEL should not turn when you turn the Variator. That indicates the CLUTCH is engaged actually turning the BELL which it should not be engaged.
Here is what the clutch PADS look like get a screw driver and see if you can PUSH back the pads they should be retracted and NOT AGAINST THE BELL.
Alleyoop
HERE THE PADS ARE RETRACTED:

Here you can see I extended the pad out which is the way they fly out when RPMS are applied the pads Grab the BELL and then turn your WHEEL.


The Bell usually has holes and you may be able to see if the pads are stuck in the EXTENDED position. You can stick a screwdriver in the holes and try and push them back.
It could be that one or several of the springs broke and are in such a position it will not let the pads a retract.


Alleyoop

[straightbangin]

the rear wheel doesnt turn when I turn the variator, it does a little when I turn the clutch assembly. Let me put it on center stand and try it, since before I did it on the kick stand where the rear wheel was down and it felt like it was starting to move back and forth, not actually moving. Let me see how much it actually moves.

[straightbangin]

Oh ya on center stand if i turn the clutch assembly one way the back wheel easily turns in the same direction, if i turn it the other way and the back wheel easily turns the other way also. Do u still want me to check what u said above alley or is that only if the back wheel turns when I turn the variator ( not what happened )

[Alleyoop]

That tells me the PADS are engaged against the bell. If you turn the Bell it should not turn your wheel. So give the old screwdriver a try to see if the pads will retract. Now remember there are usually PADS.

I bet IF AND WHEN YOU GET IT STARTED on the Centerstand the back wheel will be spinning.
Alleyoop

[straightbangin]

Ok I stuck the screw driver in the hole and it just hit solid metal, nothing I could push back. Any angle i stuck the screw driver in the hole, same thing, solid metal. I have the idle screw set so its to just where the back wheel is not spinning when i start it and its on center stand idleing, so it will be interesting to see if this has changed I re-adjusted the A/F screw and the idle screw after I put the new fuel " system " in so pretty recently

[Alleyoop]

You can also try with a board give the BELL a couple of smacks all around to see if they free up. You can also look for where the Pads Swivel from and squirt a little oil in there JUST A TAD. The moisture and water may have made them rusty and are binding.
Alleyoop

[straightbangin]

Is the pad solid metal? When I think pad I guess I think of something rubbery/squishy, I'll go give it a lil tap tap and see if anything happens though

[straightbangin]

Tapping didnt do anything. I dont see what looks like a pad. Should I take the outer cover off and film it? Battery is done charging.

[Alleyoop]

Yes the ARMS are metal the PADS are on the edge they are like SANDPAPER material that grab the bell.
Alleyoop

[straightbangin]

I look in the holes and all I see is metal. LOL. Should I film myself taking the outer cover off?

[Alleyoop]

Here are the parts of the CLUTCH:
Alleyoop

[straightbangin]

Cool. I can't see any of that from the outside, just the cover w/ the holes in it and just solid metal through the holes.