New JCL MP 250 By mj1223 (Read 8,067 times)

[richardthescooter2]

bobf, I checked it out No fuse box on left side of the battery only one fuse on the right side in a little box you clip to the side, so where is my fuse box

[bobf]

OK, I am assuming you took off the battery cover first. It is in a box about 1 1/2 inch size, left side of battery at the rear of the battery. I had to use a screwdriver to pry the cover off.

My radio will only work if the key is switched to the run position. It works with the engine running or kill switch off, engine not running. If you don't find the fuse box where I said mine is, then I am as lost as you.
.

[Alleyoop]

Can I ask a question? I mean the two motors you guys are talking about are completely different. Just take a look at the motor and you will know which motor you have.
To help with that here are pictures of the two completley different motors.
Alleyoop

[bobf]

This is a good clue. If it is a Linhai engine there is a lot of difference from the Honda clone. They have different parts manuals and different space configurations.

When talking JCL I have no idea if it correlates to the Roketa ways or not. So as suggested look to the engine and eliminate all the designation confusion. Roketa says the 54B is Linhai and the 54 is Honda. I have not been able to determine what the A an B stand for other than the supplier group. Roketa has 250B on their MC 54 250 line and apparently JCL has MP 250 series with an A. But which engine. Best to look at the engine.
.

[bobf]

Interesting times today. I have read in places that this JCL 250A was a Honda driven machine. Then I went to the JCL USA web site and looked into things there. I pulled down the parts manual and clicked on the engine assembly and it showed a Linhai engine. So I asked for the valve adjustment film. This looked also like a Linhai engine with the intake valve on top and the other valve on the bottom. I have never adjusted valves on either engine but I thought the Honda clone could be adjusted just from the top.

Time to go back to the engine look and see just what you have.

He also showed how to remove the back plastics and when he was at the battery area I looked but could not tell from his pictures if there was a fuse box in there. The wiring drawing was just as crude as the one for my scooter too.

I sure wish these designations could be sorted out and made more constant. Several distributors seem to all buy from the same factories but with slight changes and different numbers.

Watch this film about this Honda scoot.



But is it really a Honda driven machine.
.

[mj1223]

Mar 5, 2012 9:20:19 GMT -6 ce said:

The JCL 250 A is the Roketa 250 B, so I'm assuming you have a 257cc Linhai engine.

There is a fuse box at the rear by the tail light cluster, you can see it if you look up under the bucket, but to access it open the panel at the rear of the bucket.

It may be a bad ground or a loose connector, so trace and secure all wires.

I lifted the seat and found a couple bolts in the back that hold a cover that allows access to the tail lights but no fuses are back there. I looked underneath to the sides of the scooter and still no fuses. How hard is it to take all of the shrouds off in the rear so that I can see if there are some hidden fuses? any ideas?

[Alleyoop]

Well JR says yours DOES NOT HAVE A FUSE BOX, so you can stop looking for it.

He says there is one more fuse and if that one is shot your scoot will not start. He has two 250 scoots one is a 250A and the other a 250B so I think he knows what he is talking about.



Alleyoop

[Bashan]

These are Honda Reflex clones, as Bobf aptly put it "Honda driven". Have you ever looked through the Reflex manual from Honda? The engine is a horizontal 249cc, neither the 244 CF Moto, nor 257 Linhai. Here's a drawing from the manual:

So as I understand it, the Chinese clones use the Honda platform but then tailor it for the engine they're going to put in it. They also use they're own unique wiring configurations which you can look through right here. The Linhai is horizontal, and the CF Moto will be vertical. Rich

[mj1223]

Mar 6, 2012 18:19:04 GMT -6 Alleyoop said:

Well JR says yours DOES NOT HAVE A FUSE BOX, so you can stop looking for it.

He says there is one more fuse and if that one is shot your scoot will not start. He has two 250 scoots one is a 250A and the other a 250B so I think he knows what he is talking about.



Alleyoop

Thanks for the link. No wonder I couldn't find it. I knew I couldn't find a fuse box but also knew if there was one it must have been hidden.

[Alleyoop]

Great, but at least look for one by the solenoid I may be wrong but I think JR said there might be two, the one on the positive cable and another one.
Alleyoop

[mj1223]

Resolved. Thanks to Alleyoop for pointing me in the right direction. The 20amp fuse was blown and when replaced it fired right up. for those of you who don't know where the solenoid is it helps to lay on the ground on the right side of the bike and look up past the muffler under the seat you will see it up there. There is a little rubber mount that it sits in and then mine was held in to the mount by a cable tie which I had to snip so that I could pull the solenoid down and get at the fuse.

[fnshnegrl]

Replying to the person that wants to know where the fuse is for his radio on the Roketa. It's an inline fuse 25A behind the front ferring. Need to take the ferring off in order to get to it.

[scooterg]

I have the JCL MP 250A and when i use the remote start, i know i have to hit the off alarm on remote to turn bike off but to reset it i have to use the off alarm on remote a second time or bike wont start with key. Also i found my kill switch wasn't quite activating right and bike would not start and sometimes die when i first started riding it. The fix for the kill switch was to flip it back and fourth several times and that seemed to break it in pretty well. Now i just leave it in on position, really no need when i can turn the key for same effect.
~just my experience with this bike ~ Good Luck SG

[dbringhurst]

Has anyone had any luck with the fuse issue? I too have lost my radio, although I just ordered a Torc T12 Bluetooth helmet, so I'm not too concerned. (Huzza!)

My biggest issue is that I need a replacement carrying compartment as mine has cracked, and my windshield is somehow warped. Looking at the base where the windshield meets the bike, it appears as though the windshield was never actually meant to fit. The plastic is straining to conform, as if the slot that the windshield slides in to does not bend tightly enough to accommodate the curvature of the windshield. It seems poorly put together.

The only thing I can find online as a replacement is at "http://www.motopartsmax.com/index.php/main_page/product_info/products_id/991/tID/3/cPath/466" and it is meant to accommodate the MC-54-250B. This bike looks very much the same as my JCL MP250A, but I don't want to risk ordering it just to find out it doesn't fit.

Come to think of it, the previous owner may have done just that. This is a pretty broad post, but if anyone has any input I'd appreciate it.